Very slow start of Knetworkmanager and wifi connection

No improvement since I first reported this problem, I am hoping somebody can now advise.
Using openSUSE11.3 Linux 2.6.34.7-0.5-default i686 with kde 4.4.4 release 3.
Problem is the wait of sometimes over 2 minutes before the wifi connection is available.

Two questions:-

  1. Why does it take so long? Longer by far than it used to be with previous openSUSE releases. Much longer than with that other OS!!!

  2. How do I remove the wallet process. Not needed in present environment so I would like direct connection without having to open wallet. I didn’t set this up, it just happened after I had upgraded to 11.3 and I need to know how to disable it to save time.
    Hope somebody can shine some light here.
    Regards,
    Budgie2

Budgie2

No improvement since I first reported this problem, I am hoping somebody can now advise.

Using openSUSE11.3 Linux 2.6.34.7-0.5-default i686 with kde 4.4.4 release 3.
Problem is the wait of sometimes over 2 minutes before the wifi connection is available.

Two questions:-

  1. Why does it take so long? Longer by far than it used to be with previous openSUSE releases. Much longer than with that other OS!!!
  1. How do I remove the wallet process. Not needed in present environment so I would like direct connection without having to open wallet. I didn’t set this up, it just happened after I had upgraded to 11.3 and I need to know how to disable it to save time.
    Hope somebody can shine some light here.
    Regards,
    Budgie2
    You normally use KWallet to keep your network password and I was under the impression it was required unless the wireless is unencrypted? I wrote a script that will delete ALL KNetworkManager and KWalletManager files which I presume would stop Wallet from running again, until you restarted it. The files were intended for those that use KDE and want to use KNetworkManager and it is supposed you must load KWallet to store the network encryption for you. If you understand that ALL KWallet passwords will be removed, you can run the script and start over again (with KWallet & KNetworkManager). This does nothing to your wireless hardware, but all entries into KNetworkManager and KWalletManager must be redone again from scratch.

knetfix - Version 1.00 -KDE KNetworkManager Fix for Wireless Connection Problems

Make sure this is what you would like to do. The KWallet commands are shown and you could just run them manually, but it is suggested you do all of this at the same time.

Thank You,

Hi,

Did you try to manage your wireless with something else than networkmanager? You can do it with ifup (more compelx) and the exist another great tool to do it : wicd - home

On 12/03/2010 08:06 AM, DaaX wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Did you try to manage your wireless with something else than
> networkmanager? You can do it with ifup (more compelx) and the exist
> another great tool to do it : ‘wicd - home’
> (http://wicd.sourceforge.net/)

Are you sure that wicd is a “great” tool? It failed badly for me.

No luck on your side. No problem with it. My friend use it too without any itch.

Hi jdmcdaniel3,
Sorry I have not yet done any more work on this but keen to sort it out now if possible.

With previous versions of openSUSE/kde I never had to use the wallet and was under the impression that Knetworkmanager handled the supplication and password handshake with the access point without recourse to wallet.

On further examination of my existing system it appears the wifi access passwords are indeed stored in the wallet. However, before I do anything irrevocable and showing my ignorance, the script appears to remove knetworkmanager and wallet programs. Is that correct? I assume I am then to reinstall them using yast and kde. Is that correct?

Regards,
Budgie2

Are you sure that wicd is a “great” tool? It failed badly for me.
lwfinger, I agree with your assessment of wicd as I had the same exact experience. Of course, I had mixed results with KNetworkManager at first where it would work right off the bat on one PC and would not work, at least with Wireless on another PC. After looking through the many threads on KNetworkManager in the forum, I have discovered how to seemingly make it work every time, on everything I have tried so far. I have only tried to make wicd work twice on two different PC’s with wireless and it never got as far as KNetworkManager did, but in all fairness, it has not got the same attention from me as KNetworkManager has gotten. Unless something changes, there seems to be no reason to go any further with wicd however.

Thank You,

Hi jdmcdaniel3,
Sorry I have not yet done any more work on this but keen to sort it out now if possible.

With previous versions of openSUSE/kde I never had to use the wallet and was under the impression that Knetworkmanager handled the supplication and password handshake with the access point without recourse to wallet.

On further examination of my existing system it appears the wifi access passwords are indeed stored in the wallet. However, before I do anything irrevocable and showing my ignorance, the script appears to remove knetworkmanager and wallet programs. Is that correct? I assume I am then to reinstall them using yast and kde. Is that correct?

Regards,
Budgie2
Budgie2, we posted within a few minutes of each other and I missed your reply. The script I mention will KBLAST all KNetworkManager and KWalletManager settings straight to he*l. If there is anything in KWallet you can’t lose, as in you don’t remember the passwords, then don’t do it. However, what this does is take you back to square one which seems to get both programs off to a great start, but you must reenter everything, including all passwords.

Thank You,

You can change the place where knetworkmanager stores the passwords.

Left click the knetworkmanager icon -> manage connections -> others -> connection secrets

You can choose from:

  • safe place (ciphered)
  • A file (not ciphered)
  • Don’t store

Best regards,
Greg