Various problems - 42.2 install

os_brendan · November 20, 2016, 12:28am

I’ve just installed opensuse 42.2. I had / and /home on separate partitions and had an additional partition spare, reserved for a new os install (leap 42.2).

I installed 42.2 to that reserved partition. The installation was mostly ok, although it complained that it couldn’t install ntp. I went ahead with the rest of the install anyway. The software (apart from ntp) seems to be installed and running. However:

the system is slow, slow slow eg: <- this, of course, is the main problem.

typing my password at the login screen lags echoing the chars (typing here does not lag though).
menus lag. eg there’s a noticable delay
I can see windows updating if I move them. If I slowly drag a window across the screen it will jump 20-50 pixels at a time.
If I switch windows I can see the window being redrawn (vertical wipe down) and the window gets focus a second or so after.
installed Krita (paint program) the screen updates are unable to track mouse movement - lag of low seconds/ high milliseconds.

My motherboard is a msi z97. I don’t have a separate graphics card. It uses an onboard xeon e3-1200 for graphics.

usb mouse is not recognised (weird - does not even seem to be powering it via usb ports - it has backlights which aren’t lighting)
ntp does not install.

Retrieving package ntp-4.2.8p8-25.1.x86_64                                                                              (1/1), 730.0 KiB (  2.3 MiB unpacked)
Retrieving: ntp-4.2.8p8-25.1.x86_64.rpm .................................................................................................[done (273.9 KiB/s)]
Checking for file conflicts: ..........................................................................................................................[done]
(1/1) Installing: ntp-4.2.8p8-25.1.x86_64 ............................................................................................................[error]
Installation of ntp-4.2.8p8-25.1.x86_64 failed:
Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: SysV service ntp does not exist
SysV service ntpd does not exist
SysV service ntp does not exist
SysV service ntpd does not exist
SysV service ntp-wait does not exist
sed: can't read /var/lib/systemd/sysv-convert/database: No such file or directory
error: %pre(ntp-4.2.8p8-25.1.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 2
error: ntp-4.2.8p8-25.1.x86_64: install failed
error: ntp-4.2.6p5-15.16.1.x86_64: erase skipped

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yast install recommended updates fails. - When I click accept it briefly opens the update window, then closes it.

wolfi323 · November 20, 2016, 12:50am

As I already mentioned in the other thread, this sounds like you are using software OpenGL rendering.
Can you please post the output of “glxinfo | grep render” (install Mesa-demo-x if it isn’t already) and /var/log/Xorg.0.log?

Try switching from OpenGL to XRender in “Configure Desktop”/systemsettings5->Display and Monitor->Compositor.
Should speed up your system in any case.

Earlier kwin versions did that automatically when they detected software rendering, but I think the latest version does continue to use OpenGL (I’m not sure though).

usb mouse is not recognised (weird - does not even seem to be powering it via usb ports - it has backlights which aren’t lighting)

Hm.
Have you tried a different port? What does dmesg say when you plugin it in?
I doubt that this is a general problem… USB mice are ubiquitous nowadays.

ntp does not install.

The problem is this:

sed: can't read /var/lib/systemd/sysv-convert/database: No such file or directory
error: %pre(ntp-4.2.8p8-25.1.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 2
error: ntp-4.2.8p8-25.1.x86_64: install failed
error: ntp-4.2.6p5-15.16.1.x86_64: erase skipped

Try to create the file manually, then it should work:

sudo touch /var/lib/systemd/sysv-convert/database

Or uninstall the old one first, and then install the new one fresh.

I’d consider this a packaging bug though.

Just strange that this hasn’t been noticed in testing (upgrades from previous versions are tested all the time in openQA), nor reported by other users yet…

yast install recommended updates fails. - When I click accept it briefly opens the update window, then closes it.

You mean “Install recommended updates” in the menu?
What are the last lines in /var/log/YaST2/y2log?
Apparently it crashes.

Does it work otherwise?

PS: I just noticed that this was in fact a fresh installation.
But where does that ntp 4.2.6p5 come from then? (even 13.2 already had 4.2.8)

rpm -qi ntp

Could it be that you rather upgraded your 13.1 system by mistake?
13.1 came indeed with 4.2.6p5…

os_brendan · November 20, 2016, 1:09am

direct rendering: Yes
    GLX_MESA_multithread_makecurrent, GLX_MESA_query_renderer, 
    GLX_MESA_multithread_makecurrent, GLX_MESA_query_renderer, 
Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 256 bits)
    GL_ARB_conditional_render_inverted, GL_ARB_conservative_depth, 
    GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_depth_clamp, GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil, 
    GL_ARB_conditional_render_inverted, GL_ARB_conservative_depth, 
    GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_depth_clamp, 
    GL_OES_element_index_uint, GL_OES_fbo_render_mipmap,

cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
18.616] (–) Log file renamed from “/var/log/Xorg.pid-908.log” to “/var/log/Xorg.0.log”
18.656]
X.Org X Server 1.18.3
Release Date: 2016-04-04
18.657] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
18.657] Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX
18.657] Current Operating System: Linux linux-sivb 4.4.27-2-default #1 SMP Thu Nov 3 14:59:54 UTC 2016 (5c21e7c) x86_64
18.657] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.27-2-default root=UUID=3d924e82-c01d-4461-891c-84fdfd98b682 apm=off acpi=off mce=off barrier=off ide=nodma idewait=50 i8042.nomux psmouse.proto=bare irqpoll pci=nommconf resume=/dev/disk/by-uuid/2a09524e-3f50-49d7-b4b0-39b0f1fde0bf splash=silent quiet showopts
18.657] Build Date: 18 October 2016 08:58:39PM
18.657]
18.657] Current version of pixman: 0.34.0
18.657] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
18.657] Markers: (–) probed, () from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
18.657] (==) Log file: “/var/log/Xorg.0.log”, Time: Sun Nov 20 10:07:01 2016
18.674] (==) Using config directory: “/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d”
18.674] (==) Using system config directory “/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d”
18.778] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
18.778] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
18.778] () |–>Screen “Default Screen Section” (0)
18.778] () | |–>Monitor “”
18.778] (==) No monitor specified for screen “Default Screen Section”.
Using a default monitor configuration.
18.778] (==) Automatically adding devices
18.778] (==) Automatically enabling devices
18.778] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
18.778] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1fffff
18.826] (WW) The directory “/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi” does not exist.
18.826] Entry deleted from font path.
18.827] (==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/ghostscript/,
/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/,
built-ins
18.827] (==) ModulePath set to “/usr/lib64/xorg/modules”
18.827] () Extension “XFree86-DGA” is disabled
18.827] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
18.827] (II) Loader magic: 0x80fce0
18.827] (II) Module ABI versions:
18.827] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
18.827] X.Org Video Driver: 20.0
18.827] X.Org XInput driver : 22.1
18.827] X.Org Server Extension : 9.0
18.827] (++) using VT number 7

18.827] (II) systemd-logind: logind integration requires -keeptty and -keeptty was not provided, disabling logind integration
18.827] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:0412:1462:7918 rev 6, Mem @ 0xef800000/4194304, 0xd0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x0000f000/64
18.827] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
18.872] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
19.070] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
19.070]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 1.0.0
19.070]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 9.0
19.070] (==) AIGLX enabled
19.070] (II) Scanning /etc/X11/xorg_pci_ids directory for additional PCI ID's supported by the drivers
19.082] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0
19.082] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 1
19.082] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 2
19.082] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 3
19.082] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
19.082] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
19.082] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
19.124] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
19.124]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 2.99.917
19.124]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
19.124]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
19.124] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
19.124] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
19.160] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
19.160]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 1.18.3
19.160]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
19.160]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
19.160] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
19.160] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
19.160] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
19.160]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 0.4.4
19.160]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
19.160]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
19.160] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
19.160] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
19.170] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
19.170]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 2.3.4
19.170]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
19.170]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
19.170] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets:
    i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G,
    915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM,
    Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33,
    GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43
19.170] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) HD Graphics: 2000-6000
19.170] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics: 5100, 6100
19.170] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Pro Graphics: 5200, 6200, P6300
19.170] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
19.170] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
19.170] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
21.712] intel: waited 2020 ms for i915.ko driver to load
21.752] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
21.752] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
21.752] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
21.752] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
21.752] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
21.752] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
21.768] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
21.768]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 0.0.2
21.768]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
21.768] (**) FBDEV(1): claimed PCI slot 0@0:2:0
21.768] (II) FBDEV(1): using default device
21.768] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
21.768] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
21.768] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
21.768] (II) FBDEV(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
    "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
21.768] (==) FBDEV(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32
21.768] (==) FBDEV(0): RGB weight 888
21.768] (==) FBDEV(0): Default visual is TrueColor
21.768] (==) FBDEV(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
21.768] (II) FBDEV(0): hardware: VESA VGA (video memory: 8128kB)
21.768] (II) FBDEV(0): checking modes against framebuffer device...
21.768] (II) FBDEV(0): checking modes against monitor...
21.768] (--) FBDEV(0): Virtual size is 1920x1080 (pitch 1920)
21.768] (**) FBDEV(0):  Built-in mode "current": 207.4 MHz, 85.3 kHz, 77.2 Hz
21.768] (II) FBDEV(0): Modeline "current"x0.0  207.38  1920 1952 2192 2432  1080 1084 1088 1104 -hsync -vsync -csync (85.3 kHz b)
21.768] (==) FBDEV(0): DPI set to (96, 96)
21.768] (II) Loading sub module "fb"
21.768] (II) LoadModule: "fb"
21.768] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfb.so
21.776] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
21.776]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 1.0.0
21.776]    ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
21.776] (**) FBDEV(0): using shadow framebuffer
21.776] (II) Loading sub module "shadow"
21.776] (II) LoadModule: "shadow"
21.776] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libshadow.so
21.782] (II) Module shadow: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
21.782]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 1.1.0
21.782]    ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
21.782] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
21.782] (II) Unloading vesa
21.782] (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
21.782] (II) FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument (Screen blanking not supported by kernel - disabling)
21.793] (==) FBDEV(0): Backing store enabled
21.793] (==) FBDEV(0): DPMS enabled
21.793] (==) RandR enabled
21.795] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
21.795] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
22.767] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
22.767] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized swrast
22.767] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0
23.178] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel PCH Line Out Front (/dev/input/event8)
23.178] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
23.178] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
23.178] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel PCH Line Out Surround (/dev/input/event9)
23.178] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
23.178] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
23.178] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel PCH Line Out CLFE (/dev/input/event10)

-snipped to get char count down-

Try switching from OpenGL to XRender in “Configure Desktop”/systemsettings5->Display and Monitor->Compositor.
Should speed up your system in any case.

Doesn’t seem to make any noticeable difference. Do I need to reboot?

Hm.
Have you tried a different port? What does dmesg say when you plugin it in?
I doubt that this is a general problem… USB mice are ubiquitous nowadays.

I have tried different ports.
This is me plugging and unplugging it (in the same port), then leaving it plugged in for a couple of minutes:

 3216.314101] usb 1-7: new full-speed USB device number 13 using xhci_hcd
 3226.446153] usb 1-7: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/start: -110
 3226.446155] usb 1-7: can't read configurations, error -110
 3226.558100] usb 1-7: new full-speed USB device number 14 using xhci_hcd
 3236.686155] usb 1-7: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/start: -110
 3236.686156] usb 1-7: can't read configurations, error -110
 3236.798104] usb 1-7: new full-speed USB device number 15 using xhci_hcd
 3241.814154] usb 1-7: device descriptor read/all, error -110
 3241.926099] usb 1-7: new full-speed USB device number 16 using xhci_hcd
 3250.538154] usb 1-7: device descriptor read/all, error -110
 3250.538166] usb usb1-port7: unable to enumerate USB device
 3250.778100] usb 1-7: new full-speed USB device number 17 using xhci_hcd
 3260.906121] usb 1-7: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/start: -110
 3260.906122] usb 1-7: can't read configurations, error -110
 3261.018100] usb 1-7: new full-speed USB device number 18 using xhci_hcd
 3263.663769] usb 1-7: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/start: -71
 3263.663771] usb 1-7: can't read configurations, error -71
 3274.498103] usb 1-7: new full-speed USB device number 20 using xhci_hcd
 3284.626158] usb 1-7: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/start: -110
 3284.626160] usb 1-7: can't read configurations, error -110
 3284.738100] usb 1-7: new full-speed USB device number 21 using xhci_hcd
 3294.866156] usb 1-7: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/start: -110
 3294.866157] usb 1-7: can't read configurations, error -110
 3294.978101] usb 1-7: new full-speed USB device number 22 using xhci_hcd
 3299.998119] usb 1-7: device descriptor read/all, error -110
 3300.110101] usb 1-7: new full-speed USB device number 23 using xhci_hcd
 3305.126155] usb 1-7: device descriptor read/all, error -110
 3305.126167] usb usb1-port7: unable to enumerate USB device

Will get back on the other stuff.

wolfi323 · November 20, 2016, 1:19am

As expected, Mesa’s software OpenGL renderer.

cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
18.657] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.27-2-default root=UUID=3d924e82-c01d-4461-891c-84fdfd98b682 apm=off acpi=off mce=off barrier=off ide=nodma idewait=50 i8042.nomux psmouse.proto=bare irqpoll pci=nommconf resume=/dev/disk/by-uuid/2a09524e-3f50-49d7-b4b0-39b0f1fde0bf splash=silent quiet showopts

With those boot options you basically prevent the intel driver from working and a lot of other stuff. So the generic fbdev driver is used, and software OpenGL rendering.
And I wouldn’t be surprised if that would also cause your mouse/USB problem, as you also disable the kernel’s power management.

Go into YaST->System->Boot Loader, and remove all that stuff from the “Optional Kernel Parameter” field so that it just says:

resume=/dev/disk/by-uuid/2a09524e-3f50-49d7-b4b0-39b0f1fde0bf splash=silent quiet showopts

Alternatively, edit the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line in /etc/default/grub accordingly with a text editor, and run “sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg” afterwards.

As a test, you could also press ‘e’ at the boot menu and remove it from the line starting with “linux” (or “linuxefi”). This would have the advantage that it doesn’t really change the system, but only applies for that one boot. So if it causes problems/breaks things, you’d just have to reboot.

os_brendan · November 20, 2016, 4:26am

Thank you for your suggestions.

I don’t know how they got there. The installer wouldn’t boot, so I booted into safe mode to install. It might have inherited them from that.

wolfi323:

Go into YaST->System->Boot Loader, and remove all that stuff from the “Optional Kernel Parameter” field so that it just says:
resume=/dev/disk/by-uuid/2a09524e-3f50-49d7-b4b0-39b0f1fde0bf splash=silent quiet showopts

Unfortunately, removing those options means the device won’t boot, so it needs one or more of them. The hardware resets basically after line 2 (loading initrd). Won’t even boot into recovery mode.

I had a similar problem booting under opensuse 13.1 which was fixed by setting nohz=off (determined by trial and error)

What would be the equivalent here?

Yes. I will try to work out minimal bootable params before worrying about the other stuff.

wolfi323 · November 20, 2016, 4:54am

Yes, that’s likely the case.

Unfortunately, removing those options means the device won’t boot, so it needs one or more of them. The hardware resets basically after line 2 (loading initrd). Won’t even boot into recovery mode.

I had a similar problem booting under opensuse 13.1 which was fixed by setting nohz=off (determined by trial and error)

What would be the equivalent here?

Not sure, but likely the same. I doubt that the options would change…

OTOH, it may be a different problem now.

Yes. I will try to work out minimal bootable params before worrying about the other stuff.

That’s probably the best I suppose: remove the options one-by-one and see if it still boots.

And maybe a bug report would be a good idea, if you’d have reported it in 13.1, it would probably be fixed by now…

os_brendan · November 20, 2016, 5:33am

Minimal kernel settings for boot are: acpi=off
With this setting, the system suffers from all of the problems above (including not seeing the mouse).
The system speed is bad, but marginally better than before (eg window updates are noticeably slow, but not as slow as they used to be).

It doesn’t seem to.

This worked. However it complained:


Additional rpm output:
SysV service ntp does not exist
SysV service ntpd does not exist
SysV service ntp does not exist
SysV service ntpd does not exist
SysV service ntp-wait does not exist
warning: /etc/ntp.conf created as /etc/ntp.conf.rpmnew
Updating /etc/sysconfig/ntp...
warning: file /usr/share/man/man8/tickadj.8.gz: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /usr/share/man/man8/ntpstat.8.gz: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /usr/share/man/man5/ntp_mon.5.gz: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /usr/share/man/man5/ntp_misc.5.gz: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /usr/share/man/man5/ntp_clock.5.gz: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /usr/share/man/man5/ntp_auth.5.gz: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /usr/share/man/man5/ntp_acc.5.gz: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /usr/share/man/man1/ntpsnmpd.1.gz: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /usr/sbin/rcntp: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /etc/init.d/ntp: remove failed: No such file or directory
/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.Z0Mjx0: line 8: /etc/init.d/ntp: No such file or directory

It may be because I had to boot the installer in safe mode.

Unfortunately I’ve used zypper update since then, so the log has been overwritten.

wolfi323:

PS: I just noticed that this was in fact a fresh installation.
But where does that ntp 4.2.6p5 come from then? (even 13.2 already had 4.2.8)
rpm -qi ntp
Could it be that you rather upgraded your 13.1 system by mistake?
13.1 came indeed with 4.2.6p5…

??! That’s a good question.
I had a spare, blank, partition sda8 that I (was supposed) to be installing to. In the installer I formatted the partition and marked to be mounted as /.
If I mount sd8 to a temp directory and ls it, it looks like a root directory. My old root, sda3 still has stuff there as well.

I have, but it’s beyond my limit to diagnose.

jetchisel · November 20, 2016, 9:14am

Hi,

Just a suggestion since you mentioned about partitions. Have a look at

/etc/fstab

and the output of

lsblk -o name,type,label,size,mountpoint

and

blkid

compare those last two output from fstab entry, maybe just maybe

os_brendan · November 20, 2016, 12:05pm

jetchisel:

Hi,

Just a suggestion since you mentioned about partitions. Have a look at
/etc/fstab
and the output of
lsblk -o name,type,label,size,mountpoint
and
blkid
compare those last two output from fstab entry, maybe just maybe

I assume you’re asking me to check that the uuids of / and sda8 are the same? - They are. sda3 is not mounted.

os_brendan · November 20, 2016, 12:29pm

FWIW I updated the mobo’s bios as well, but no joy.

Following on from the rogue ntp version - thunderbird was supposed to be installed, but there were no icons/menu items for it. Its files weren’t were Yast said they should be. I uninstalled (it complained about not being able to delete missing files) and reinstalled and now have thunderbird menu items etc. And the no such file or directory complaints when I installed ntp.

So, I’m wondering whether there’s a way to verify an installation.

gogalthorp · November 20, 2016, 1:55pm

Yast- software management will show also TB is not installed by default you must install it

For slowness run top from a console to see if some process is eating all of the CPU

wolfi323 · November 20, 2016, 8:24pm

Hm.
Especially this turns off the kernel’s power management and likely causes the problems.

Unfortunately, I have no idea what else may help, and not having your hardware here it’s impossible to experiment myself…

This worked. However it complained:

Probably related to the previous problem but can be ignored IMHO, those are just warnings.
Something seems to have been amiss in the rpm database too, it thought those files should still be there altthough they weren’t.

I have, but it’s beyond my limit to diagnose.

You have where?

Actually it’s not your job to diagnose, but the maintainers/developer’s one.
Although you may need to provide further information of course.

I would strongly suggest to file another bug report about your problem (system not booting without acpi=off) in openSUSE’s bugzilla, against the kernel.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/

Our kernel developers are normally very responsive and helpful…

An option would also be to try a different kernel.
Repos are here:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/
(maybe with nohz=off)

The kernel is rather independent from the rest of the system, so this shouldn’t cause problems.
(and you can have more than one kernel installed at the same time anyway…)

There is:

rpm -Va

This checks all installed packages’ files if they have been tempered with somehow.
Though this will likely take a long time, and will also produce false negatives…

Your ntp problem is definitely caused by an already installed older version though.
Nothing that the above would detect.

“zypper ve” (“zypper verify”) is another option which checks even more things.

Yes, but in this case it’s already clear that the problem lies in the use of software OpenGL rendering IMHO, because the intel driver doesn’t work/is not used.

os_brendan · November 21, 2016, 7:12am

These are related. In order to find the bug report I needed to check my mail. So I went to install TB but zypper said the most recent version was already installed.
So I tried to find the files, but nothing was there. So I uninstalled and reinstalled. Now I have TB, but am very suspicious of my rpm database.

The bug report is slightly different (random reboots after boot)
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=990003

I failed at installing and configuring kdump. I will try verifying my install (or perhaps reinstalling) and lodge a bug report about acpi.

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Yes, but in this case it’s already clear that the problem lies in the use of software OpenGL rendering IMHO, because the intel driver doesn’t work/is not used.[/QUOTE]

I loaded a sysmon widget pretty early in the piece. It never gets above 50% and most of the time (like now) hovers around 1%. It clearly takes more load with windowing operations.

os_brendan · November 21, 2016, 12:12pm

So I figured there was something wrong with my initial install because the rpm database was whack. So, I reformatted and reinstalled. Now I’ve rebooted, the main problem, of terrible sluggishness is resolved (hooray). Vast improvement in performance.

However, that issue has been replaced by other problems:

monitor is now not recognised and I’m stuck with 1024x768 with no way of changing it in config desktop/display. I assume there’s some X config file I’m supposed to edit.
corsair usb mouse still not working
can’t boot except with acpi=off (to be bug reported)
power off shuts down, but doesn’t power off. (related to acpi=off?)

os_brendan · November 21, 2016, 12:27pm

Has been filed at:
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1011254

Nope, apparently not :):
Installation impossible without ACPI=off - shutdown problems with ACPI=off
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964704

wolfi323 · November 21, 2016, 4:39pm

I suppose you are still using the fbdev driver now?
This takes over the resolution from grub2, so change that in YaST->Boot Loader.

Or use vesa instead, by uninstalling xf86-video-fbdev or setting it in /etc/xorg.conf.d/ (50-device.conf e.g.).

corsair usb mouse still not working

can’t boot except with acpi=off (to be bug reported)

power off shuts down, but doesn’t power off. (related to acpi=off?)

Yes, I think all those problems are related to acpi=off.