Using Discover in OpenSUSE Tumbleweed

Hello everyone. I’m new to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed KDE. I would like to know if I can update my system using both Discover and sudo zypper dup. I’ve heard that Discover doesn’t work well in OpenSUSE. Is it true? Thanks in advance.:question:

I do not know exactly what Discover is, but I do know that using zypper dup (or other tools that do zypper dup under the skin) are the only supported way of keeping Tumbleweed up-to-date.

Personally, I would avoid using Discover, it’s one of the first packages I remove on any openSUSE install… As Henk said, “zypper dup” is the way to keep a TW installation up to date. If you want to search for a particular software package use either YaST Software Management, or “openSUSE Software”. If using the latter ensure you choose the correct version, ie, Tumbleweed.

https://userbase.kde.org/Discover

“Discover is your new one stop shop for all things app- and addon-related.”

I did not realy study the above, but is it, like Packagekit, one of those tools originating from desktop designers that assume that they can make better system management tools then a certain distribution already has for ages?

I don’t think it’s necessarily a case of making better system management tools, more a case of “easier” for the less technically inclined… to again quote from the documentation, Discover is: *“A place where skill level isn’t blocking you from executing the action you want, in this case installing new apps and add-ons!” *

Thanks for the explanation. Not something I do believe in. “Easier” does not make people getting more knowledge. Something we can learn from Windows end-users that try to manage their systems:(. And then, in many cases, we here have to clean up the mess. Something we love I asume rotfl!

Let me please emphasize once again that the updater applets for both GNOME and KDE/Plasma5 DO work, packagekit will do the same as ‘zypper dup’ does. AFAIK Discover ditto, but I would have to install and check that.

If the updater applets refuse to do their job, IME the problem is not with those applets, rather wis misconfigured repos.

The last time I looked at it (early 2019) it segfaulted upon start :frowning: … Sure that’s fixed now though.

My dislike of it is it’s ability to install “stuff” from the kde store and also flathub.org … but each to their own.

I dislike Discover. And it looks as if many others do, too. But perhaps that’s because I am an old time command line person.

Have to agree with the other posts, for opensuse users there is no real need to use discover - yast is a far superior tool. I have some experience with discover from using kde neon on a spare p/c. The most obvious one is say you wanted to install a rpm and there was a dependancy issue, the install will fail and discover would report that there was a dependancy issue but not say what additional package is required.

Although I agree, I think that new contributors should not meet sarcasm, cynicism, but rather encouragement to improve things. Must say that I don’t like the tone of some posts here. To eleborate: I know the guys that made ‘dup’ work for the applets, they went on until things worked for TW. Like said, most issues these have ( and why I use zypper ) are related to repo config etc. But these deserve bug reports, feature requests, not sarcasm, cynism. My 2 cents.