Unlike Ubuntu, openSUSE does not provide a dedicated server edition (prefer not to build one myself). So what is/are the disadvantage(s) of running it as server OS in datacenter vsusing SUSE Enterprise, other than the paid Support?
On 2015-08-16 20:26, chinese ys wrote:
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> Unlike Ubuntu, openSUSE does not provide a dedicated server edition
> (prefer not to build one myself). So what is/are the disadvantage(s) of
> running it as server OS in datacenter vsusing SUSE Enterprise, other
> than the paid Support?
Well, shorter life cycle is the main one. You can use the Evergreen
version, which at the time should be 13.1 (11.4 still has some support).
Security updates may take longer to be released, some times. Somebody
has to do them, after all, on their free time.
Mostly, that you personally become responsible for the server. You can
not “blame” openSUSE if something does not work.
On the other hand, the number of packages in openSUSE is larger, and the
versions more recent. More hardware is supported.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
Thanks, security update is indeed a potential concern. What about stability?
Will centos pose the same concern comparing to redhat?
On 2015-08-17 00:56, chinese ys wrote:
> Thanks, security update is indeed a potential concern. What about
> stability?
Supposedly the enterprise version is very very stable. I can’t say for
myself.
> Will centos pose the same concern comparing to redhat?
Dunno. I can’t say.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
I know openSUSE is community based and not guarantee. So does that mean it is levels below the enterprise version when talking about stability?
On 2015-08-17 03:46, chinese ys wrote:
> I know openSUSE is community based and not guarantee. So does that mean
> it is levels below the enterprise version when talking about stability?
No, but simply that nobody can vouch for it.
I use 13.1 without any stability issues. Many people do. But some years
I have suffered crashes. If it happens, it is you who does the job of
locating the issue. You can ask other people here or elsewhere to help
you locate it. If you finally locate a bug, you can report it, and hope
a patch is created, but this can take anything from less than day to
some years.
The enterprise version I understand is thoroughly tested to run on the
listed hardware. And it comprises a small number of packages to ensure
that what is included works right. (For instance, no kde). If you still
find a crash, depending on your contract, they have to look at it and
solve it, or so I think. Maybe I’m wrong.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 22:56:01 +0000, chinese ys wrote:
> Will centos pose the same concern comparing to redhat?
You should ask the CentOS folks that question.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
If KDE is inherently less stable, then why is it the main emphasis of openSUSE? Why include KDE in the core OS?
On 2015-08-21 19:56, BSDuser wrote:
> If KDE is inherently less stable, then why is it the main emphasis of
> openSUSE? Why include KDE in the core OS?
openSUSE is not SUSE, different goals.
SUSE, that is, SLES, thought that they were unable to provide KDE and
keep the same basic release supported for five years. Or something of
the sort.
openSUSE has no problem with changing the provided KDE version to
another one as upstream changes.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 20:33:05 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> SUSE, that is, SLES, thought that they were unable to provide KDE and
> keep the same basic release supported for five years. Or something of
> the sort.
No, that’s not it at all.
What Linux company did Novell acquire before SUSE? That probably
explains it much more accurately.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
OpenSUSE doesn’t provide a server variant any more?
I’ve installed the no-desktop server installation image from the DVD in the past.
The only real benefit, off the top of my head, for SLE is the Enterprise Support. All the other things mentioned here are trivial and a non-issue for any sysadmin.
I’ve launched several servers in the past with OpenSUSE without issues. Of course, make sure you utilize security best-practices.
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 06:16:02 +0000, vansolrick wrote:
> OpenSUSE doesn’t provide a server variant any more?
Sure, it does - you have the freedom to install whatever you want, as
long as dependencies are met.
You want a server? Great, install openSUSE as a headless server. Presto
- there’s your server.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C