Not a problem. More a enquiry.
I would appreciate any feedback on this question:
Are any of you using a USB wireless dongle that basically works Out of the Box, so to speak?
Thanks
Carl:)
Hi carl
Please post the output from zypper lr -d 
lol!
I have a Belkin F5D7050 that works fine (output from 11.3 M5), but
used on 11.2 as well;
[76206.397107] usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and
address 5
[76206.521879] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=050d,
idProduct=705e
[76206.521890] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=3
[76206.521899] usb 1-2: Product: Belkin Wireless G USB Adapter
[76206.521906] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Manufacturer_Realtek
[76206.521912] usb 1-2: SerialNumber: 00e04c000001
[76207.128211] phy1: Selected rate control algorithm 'minstrel'
[76207.131300] phy1: hwaddr 00:1c:df:46:fc:1c, RTL8187BvE V0 +
rtl8225z2, rfkill mask 2
[76207.154151] rtl8187: Customer ID is 0x00
[76207.154301] Registered led device: rtl8187-phy1::radio
[76207.154403] Registered led device: rtl8187-phy1::tx
[76207.154501] Registered led device: rtl8187-phy1::rx
[76207.155258] rtl8187: wireless switch is on
[76207.157404] usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187
[76211.364356] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan1: link is not ready
[76223.664287] wlan1: authenticate with 00:13:10:f0:2d:3e (try 1)
[76223.666535] wlan1: authenticated
[76223.718281] wlan1: associate with 00:13:10:f0:2d:3e (try 1)
[76223.773680] wlan1: RX AssocResp from 00:13:10:f0:2d:3e (capab=0x431
status=0 aid=2)
[76223.773688] wlan1: associated
[76223.780727] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan1: link becomes ready
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Hi carl
Please post the output from zypper lr -d
I have a Belkin F5D7050 that works fine (output from 11.3 M5), but
used on 11.2 as well;
Funnyrotfl!
Thanks though. I’ll take a look.
Even more funny would be "post the output of ‘/sbin/lspci -nnk’ ", you know, what I mean, don’t you?
Installed the Belkin F5D7050 on a friends system. Got it easiily working in 10.3 (had to download the firmware). Tries it first on my own 11.2. Even easier. IIRC on connection YaST asked to install the firmware, which a gladly accepted.
My lungs !!!
On 04/27/2010 09:56 AM, Akoellh wrote:
>
> Even more funny would be "post the output of ‘/sbin/lspci -nnk’ ", you
> know, what I mean, don’t you?
Or lsusb as the request was for USB devices.
My favorite USB wireless device is the Netgear WG111V2, which uses
rtl8187 as its driver. They are likely not available new in stores, but
there are lots of them on E-bay for ~$10, but be careful that it is not
a 311. The 111 does not need any external firmware, thus it really is
plug-and-play. It can also drive an 802.11g network at rates of 22-23
Mb/s - pretty close to the “theoretical” maximum of 27 Mb/s. When I am
doing a wireless NET install, I always use it.
The lsusb output for the device is
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0846:6a00 NetGear, Inc. WG111v2 54 Mbps Wireless
[RealTek RTL8187L]
My Son has one of these devices but it lacks the v2 in the lsusb output. And booting with it in a 11.2 live cd is a non-starter. It’s at good few years old this dongle, not sure exactly.
Thanks for the info though Larry. If you can advise further, great.
I think @Akoellh was taking a side swipe at my familiar ‘quotes’ for info. I’m fairly confident he didn’t miss the point of USB.
On 04/27/2010 11:06 AM, caf4926 wrote:
>
> lwfinger;2158021 Wrote:
>> On 04/27/2010 09:56 AM, Akoellh wrote:
>>>
>>> Even more funny would be "post the output of ‘/sbin/lspci -nnk’ ",
>> you
>>> know, what I mean, don’t you?
>>
>> Or lsusb as the request was for USB devices.
>>
>> My favorite USB wireless device is the Netgear WG111V2, which uses
>> rtl8187 as its driver. They are likely not available new in stores, but
>> there are lots of them on E-bay for ~$10, but be careful that it is not
>> a 311. The 111 does not need any external firmware, thus it really is
>> plug-and-play. It can also drive an 802.11g network at rates of 22-23
>> Mb/s - pretty close to the “theoretical” maximum of 27 Mb/s. When I am
>> doing a wireless NET install, I always use it.
>>
>> The lsusb output for the device is
>>
>> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0846:6a00 NetGear, Inc. WG111v2 54 Mbps Wireless
>> [RealTek RTL8187L]
>
> My Son has one of these devices but it lacks the v2 in the lsusb
> output. And booting with it in a 11.2 live cd is a non-starter. It’s at
> good few years old this dongle, not sure exactly.
> Thanks for the info though Larry. If you can advise further, great.
“V1” probably has a different chip. You have to watch the versions. At
least Netgear has the decency to change the version when they make a
chip change.
Can you get the USB IDs for your son’s module?
Well, who knows …
*(http://forums.opensuse.org/get-help-here/wireless/437585-i-can-t-connect-network.html)
cough
:-)*
OK
So I never claimed to be perfect!
@Larry:
The device itself has no indication. (I’ll double check)
Usually, I don’t give any advise on a “model” to buy, because there are too many “vendors” changing chipsets and keeping the name of their device adding a verX oder revX (if you are lucky) to the name.
So be careful, if you buy in a shop take some linux machine with you if possible and ask if they let you plug that thing in (a good shop aware of “good service for our customers” will let you do that).
For USB devices, Zydas-Chipsets (kernel driver is zd1211rw) are known to be “painless”, although they need firmware (package “zd1211-firmware” to be precise).
Ralink Chipsets CAN be quite tricky and my personal experience with all type of Ralink devices are “cheap hardware and here you really get what you pay for” although this is not only restricted to USB and Linux.
My sister in law had a mini-pci card (rt2500) in her Laptop running Redmond OS EX PEE and complained about bad connectivity if there was only one door/wall between card and AP.
Coincidently, my older Laptop “died of old age” (> 7 Years old) with its built in mini-pci wireless card (Intel, IPW2200) still intact.
So I switched cards, shortly tested with a LIVE-CD on linux (ran OOTB, as expected), had my fun with finding the drivers for EXX PEE, downloading, agreeing the license, installing, foo, bar … etc. that stuff on this other, “user friendly” OS which thinks it is necessary to reboot after a driver installation, and the “new” card shows much better link quality than that cheap Ralink thingy.
Thank you for taking the time to post that useful information. Much appreciated!
Can I now address another related question:
I have had to install a wireless N router to provide a reliable connection to my Son who currently uses M$
He is planning to switch to Linux.
Now I guess I’m asking, is there a wireless N USB (or otherwise) device I can use (All the better if like the earlier mentioned WG111V2, it works ‘OOTB’)
Thanks again.
I use two Zyxel G-220 v2 for basic installations and configurations, supported by kernel. The chip is Zydas.Driver zd1211rw. Works out of the box. I saw yesterday saw some d-link usb-chip, when i was in shopping, on it was Tux and “Linux supported”…
http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/large_images/071/10381071.jpg
This one i use…works well ootb.
I use two Zyxel G-220 v2 for basic installations and configurations,
I can’t even find such a device available
I hope to address the wireless N issue too.
Draft N is a slightly different story, especially when it comes to USB.
There are devices (Ralink 2870/3070, Atheros
“otus”/ar9170, Realtek 8192SU/U etc.) and there are also drivers, sometimes even more than one (which often is the cause for trouble if $USER does not at least tell the system which one to use), but support for “N” is -in some cases- still not too good and stability/quality of the drivers can vary strongly (especially when it comes to vendor/staging drivers).
However, when it comes to wireless, I would always recommend (not only for “draft N”) to at least consider “non-USB” devices, although not as cheap (in most cases) as USB dongles, a good (sic!, you get what you pay for) (mini)PCI(E)- or PCMCIA(Express)-card will give you way less trouble in most cases (and more choice talking about well supported chipsets, Atheros, Intel, Broadcom, Ralink, Realtek to name just a few, order is not coincidental).
Normally, you buy a wireless card for an intended period of use = “a few years”, so IMHO price is secondary, if a good device costs you some 20-30€ more than a bad one, who cares?
@Akoellh
Many thanks, I’ll look in to this.
Just as a follow up and thanks to all and to let you know Larry, I purchased WG111v2 and as you promised, it just works, no problem, perfect.