I had no problems upgrading oSUSE Gnome 64 bit from v. 12.3 to 13.1 using zypper dup and wonder if upgrading the 64 xfce installation installed on a Lenovo ThinkPad W50 (which has 3 openSUSE version - Gnome, XFCE and Openbox, installed), is advisable or not, at this time.
Of the 7 distros installed (inc. Win7) oSUSE Gnome 13.1 is the only one on which everything works, so I don’t want to mess w/ that one just yet.
The current oSUSE xfce installation is fast but w/ a couple of caveats so I am ready to give it a try, unless others have had difficulty upgrading on a similar set up.
> The current oSUSE xfce installation is fast but w/ a couple of caveats
> so I am ready to give it a try, unless others have had difficulty
> upgrading on a similar set up.
You mean that you have one openSUSE 13.1 with gnome and another with
xfce, on the same computer? WHY? :-o
I have a single install with kde3, kde4, gnome, xfce, and more. In a
single install. This is Linux, not Windows.
Regarding upgrade. My usual recommendation is to wait a month or two
after release, till most early bugs are corrected. On every release, I
have nothing in particular to say against 13.2.
If you want a precise answer, it is YOU who has to test, on another
partition on the same target machine, whether 13.2 works for you or not.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
My criterion has changed since since I began using GNU/Lixux distros full time in 2008. I quickly changed from KDE to Gnome but since then, I prefer fast modular environments that require fewer resources and are less graphics intensive on the user interface end. I prefer function over form and have found that Openbox (which I use with a number of xfce4 applications installed to the xfce4-panel), is as complete as any other, fully functional if you know where things are. And having fewer bells and whistles seems to make the OS faster and more stable. (This may be why CrunchBang and Archbang users are so convinced and their forums so active).
And as i mentioned, Gnome is one of the two principle versions of openSUSE and the attention shows. It’s the only one of the 3 installations on which everything works at present. So I can leave that one intact and experiment with one of the two others that I depend on less, to determine how my computer is going to react to a v. 13.2 zypper dup upgrade.
Surprisingly, openSUSE with a fast DE is equal to the intentionally lean Arch or Slackware derivatives.
I have a single install with kde3, kde4, gnome, xfce, and more. In a
single install. This is Linux, not Windows.
If you care to tell me how to do that (or provide a link for a instructions) it would save considerable disk space.
Regarding upgrade. My usual recommendation is to wait a month or two
after release, till most early bugs are corrected. On every release, I
have nothing in particular to say against 13.2.
That is a reasonable recommendation and since a month has already almost gone by, waiting a bit longer sounds like the wise thing to do.
Thanks for your response, Carlos. I know you are an experienced openSUSE user and long time contributor to the openSUSE Forum.
You can install multiple desktop environments on a single instance. If done at install time just select multiple ie KDE GNOME xfce what ever else you want
Or you can do it after the install just select patterns in Yast-Software management and add as many addition desktops as you want. You do not need or even want multiple installation just to have different desktops unless you have very very odd circumstances .
On 2014-11-28 23:06, d hinds wrote:
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> robin_listas;2679216 Wrote:
>> I have a single install with kde3, kde4, gnome, xfce, and more. In a
>> single install. This is Linux, not Windows.
>
> If you care to tell me how to do that (or provide a link for a
> instructions) it would save considerable disk space.
No instructions I know of. Just install every desktop you wish. There
should be a pattern in YaST for selecting each one. There should be no
problems.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
Wouldn’t you agree the secret is editing each menu respective to its DE, for example edit Xfce to show only Xfce and KDE to show only KDE unless of course you wanted to use something like KDE’s Filelight in Xfce instead of Baobab, for example. It’s all in the menus.
On 2014-11-29 03:16, dubois wrote:
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> robin_listas;2679555 Wrote:
>> No instructions I know of. Just install every desktop you wish. There
>> should be a pattern in YaST for selecting each one. There should be no
>> problems.
> Wouldn’t you agree the -secret- is editing each menu respective to its
> DE, for example edit Xfce to show only Xfce and KDE to show only KDE
> unless of course you wanted to use something like KDE’s Filelight in
> Xfce instead of Baobab, for example. It’s all in the menus.
That’s a hell of a job.
No, I don’t do it. Because it is a very big job, and two, because I use
applications intended for any desktop in any desktop. Most of them work.
I’d like to know what desktop they are intended for, but as that is
impossible, I try to remember them instead.
The only way to do it is to convince the developers to change the
definition files so that information is included in all the definition
files. And there are thousands of them.
(the menus are created automatically from definition files, one per
application entry)
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
I disagree, I can’t elaborate more but just my opinion.
I want the use of my DE to be universal.
In xfce I use kdm to login, cause I find it pretty and
I use kwin instead of xfwm4 to make it look more attractive.
OK. I can agree with you both about menus - perhaps my minimal installs make it easier for me to keep thing seperate when I choose to have more than one DE installed and I don’t this time around but as I mentioned, mixing and matching works, too. See y’all later.
On 2014-11-29 05:56, conram wrote:
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> dubois;2679561 Wrote:
>> Wouldn’t you agree the -secret- is editing each menu respective to its
>> DE, for example edit Xfce to show only Xfce and KDE to show only KDE
>> unless of course you wanted to use something like KDE’s Filelight in
>> Xfce instead of Baobab, for example. It’s all in the menus.
>
> I disagree, I can’t elaborate more but just my opinion.
> I want the use of my DE to be universal.
> In xfce I use kdm to login, cause I find it pretty and
> I use kwin instead of xfwm4 to make it look more attractive.
I use XFCE, but I use several KDE and Gnome tools.
Right now, I have “Kate” opened on a file, for instance. And Lokalize. I
use Amarok as audio player.
Tomboy is good for taking notes. Evince is good for viewing pdfs.
Sometimes I use thunar, others dolphin or nautilus to browse files.
Meld is a good tool.
So is baobab.
The desktop is mostly irrelevant.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
