upgrading only updated programs

I use Factory repositories of KDE4 and there are new releases almost every day in that repository. Although I believe that there are useful updates in the packages, I don’t think they are really that crucial that I should update them every day.

When I do update, I usually use graphical frontend and select from menu: Packages >> All Packages >> Update if newer version available. That includes all the updates available either for the program or the package.

I’d really like to be able to sort out these packages that have updates for the programs available. Is there any way to do it?

Yep. Start the software installer, pick ‘Installation Overview’ with ‘keep’ ticked. This fills the list with all packages installed. Packages that have updates available will show up in blue, packages that are no longer available will be red. Clicking on ‘Version’ in the header of the list, will show the ‘red’ packages first, followed by the ‘blue’ ones.

Mind, I suggest you don’t start updating individual KDE4 packages. If you update KDE4, update all updateable packages from the KDE4 repos.

Actually my wish is not about KDE4 packages, but general - KDE4 repositories are just a good example of quickly-changing ones.

And I guess I did not make myself clear enough… I can sort out all the programs updates manually, but I’d like to do it automatically as these few program updates get easily lost in a horde of KDE packages that all have updates in means of package.

I imagine it could be implemented by checking only programs’ versions as packages have version numbers for programs and version numbers for packages separated with a dash.

And is there a way to list packages having updates in command line with zypper?

No way to achieve this?

atroxix wrote:
> I imagine it could be implemented by checking only programs’ versions
> as packages have version numbers for programs and version numbers for
> packages separated with a dash.

i can’t directly answer either of your questions, but i can point you
to some places that your answers may await your discovery see:

http://en.opensuse.org/Yast and the links therein…

> And is there a way to list packages having updates in command line with
> zypper?

if so, it would be explained in the manual, open a terminal and enter

man zypper

or, open Konqueror and type this in the address line:

#zypper

there is also a zipper tips/tricks site, let me find it:
http://opensuse-tutorials.com/category/zypper/

and, there is plenty of other documentation available from here:
http://tinyurl.com/ybklh48

Have a lot of fun! make searching for answers a game, soon you will be
a guru!


palladium

I have read documentation quite a bit and I cannot find this functionality. So I thought maybe I’ve just missed it as zypper’s manual page is not really a simple one :wink:

There’s ‘list-updates’ command, but its options are not very functionality extending.

Aha, there are feature requests for the points I’ve asked here:

Reading again, I doubt if your perception of version numbers, packages and programs is OK.

What do you mean? What’s wrong with my perception? :slight_smile:

atroxix wrote:
> Knurpht;2142458 Wrote:
>> Reading again, I doubt if your perception of version numbers, packages
>> and programs is OK.
>
> What do you mean? What’s wrong with my perception? :slight_smile:
>
>
i know you are answering another poster…and, i think you think he
slammed you, but knowing him, i’m pretty certain he did not intend to
(he is just a non-native english user who is WELL worth listening to
:slight_smile: even if he seemingly punches when he intends to stroke gently!)

let me try to add: personally i still don’t understand exactly what
you are trying to do…or what question is…

maybe it is your subject which gets me confused:

“upgrading only updated programs” i think i know what both upgrading
and updating means in the openSUSE software context–it is like KDE4.1
is installed with (i don’t know) openSUSE 11.1 and KDE4.1 is updated
with bug fixes and security patches until one day it is upgraded to KDE4.2

so, why would you not want to get all the security and bug fixing
updates on KDE4.1 until when KDE4.2 is released…

see how i’m confused?

now, since you are using factory KDE4 you are using NON-released
software…that is the definition of what is in factory…factory is
where 11.3 will be released from…so, there is no such thing as
upgrading from factory…it is all daily builds…round and round…

i’m too confused to continue…


palladium

No worries - I just wanted to know what he meant by that :slight_smile:

Sorry for not expressing myself 100% clearly and yes, I did mean smth else :slight_smile:

I meant “upgrading” as upgrading programs (eg. Firefox going from 3.6.1 to 3.6.2) and “updating” as updating package (eg. Firefox going from 3.6.1-1.2 to 3.6.1-2.1). The feature requests I linked here explain it better :slight_smile:

So anyway, as there are these 2 feature request for what I asked here, I guess it cannot be done currently.