hi peoples.
Has anybody out there managed a working upgrade from 11.0 to 11.1?
Omg… What a disaster mine has been! lol. I knew it was risky, but i never tried upgrading suse before, so i wanted to see if it would work good or not.I tried the upgrade option on the dvd, It seemed ok… but alot of things were messed up… I couldn’t get my nvidia to work for a couple of hours, i was gettin all sorts of errors, and my system was pretty unstable… i’de get freezes, and some programs wouldn’t work…
So I tried reinstalling it, but leaving my old home directory and remounting it… Omg what another disaster. Practically NOTHING worked anymore. Lol…
So yer… A clean install is Definately Much better, Im about to do one now…
Although I really wish Opensuse was a rolling release… I, like alot of other people hate reinstalling everytime I want the latest version of my Favourite Linux Operating System…
But ahwell… OpenSuse is definately a great distro apart from having to do fresh intalls…
I’m not a believer in an upgrade, but I know of users who have been successful.
My experience if one has many 3rd party applications installed (either via rpm or via one’s own custom compile of a tarball) then many things can be broken in an update. In such a case (with many 3rd party apps) often the dependencies can not be solved.
I do this all the time, and it works for me. I wonder if your earlier efforts totally messed this up?
But a couple of notes, … if my /home is too old (ie goes back a few openSUSE updates) then I prefer to back it up, and then reformat it as part of a new install. Its a good excuse to clean it up, as I am not very good at keeping my /home in a clean state.
Also, if you changed desktops between versions (ie went from KDE-4.0.3 to KDE-3.5.10, or went from KDE-3.5.9 to KDE-4.1.3) then I suspect you could have problems if you kept /home.
I suspect I don’t run across this that much because I typically only update every 2nd or 3rd openSUSE release (aside from my test PC).
Had great success upgrading 10.1 to 10.2 1nd then 10.3. Was just getting ready to upgrade 11.0 to 11.1.
I don’t usually create a partition for home. I create a boot, root and swap partitions. Did the same on 11.0. Don’t know if this has any effect on upgrades. Probably not.
bjbrock wrote:
> Had great success upgrading 10.1 to 10.2 1nd then 10.3. Was just getting
> ready to upgrade 11.0 to 11.1.
>
> I don’t usually create a partition for home. I create a boot, root and
> swap partitions. Did the same on 11.0. Don’t know if this has any effect
> on upgrades. Probably not.
I used the NET install CD to upgrade my 11.0 x86_64 system to 11.1. It went
smoothly.
I have separate partitions for /, /boot, and /home.
Last spring, I upgraded via YAST just like else_where said, for the first time, going from 10.3 to 11.0, but there were some third party issues to work through. Wasn’t a big hill for a stepper, but your results may vary. It’s not for the weak of heart, but it is doable. It just depends on your level of expertise and the number of changes you made to the system after the last install.
If one was to do a clean install of 11.0, or even 10.3 and then do an immediate upgrade to 11.1, it would be flawless. It’s all those things you do in between that make the difference.
This time, was a new PC with my first install of 64bit, so there was no upgrade.
I did stuff in between, so it wasn’t flawless. I have been trying to nail down the NetworkManager problem I’ve been having: it doesn’t work.
It then occurred to me that maybe there stuff left over in my /home that was causing problems. I did a zypper dup and it didn’t solve the problem. I then did a DVD install, saving /home and that didn’t solve my problem.
So, trying to solve one problem, I created another one. I did a DVD re-install and tried to get rid of /home. I’m not good with partitioning and I ended up with something like this:
sda1 - windows
sda5 - /
sda6 - /home
sda7 - swap
As you can see, sda2, 3 and 4 dropped out. When the install is finished and the installer is writing grub, I get an error box that says, in part, it can’t find sda2. Yet, the suggested boot menu seems to point to opensuse 11.1 on sda5.
Anyway, I let it repair itself but grub doesn’t work. On the initial reboot, I get a screen blank except for 2 symbols that look like faces and no boot. Isn’t there a way to edit grub from the install menu? If so, what should grub point to since Windows is at sd1?
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> I did stuff in between, so it wasn’t flawless. I have been trying to
> nail down the NetworkManager problem I’ve been having: it doesn’t work.
>
> It then occurred to me that maybe there stuff left over in my /home
> that was causing problems. I did a zypper dup and it didn’t solve the
> problem. I then did a DVD install, saving /home and that didn’t solve
> my problem.
>
> So, trying to solve one problem, I created another one. I did a DVD
> re-install and tried to get rid of /home. I’m not good with
> partitioning and I ended up with something like this:
> sda1 - windows
> sda5 - /
> sda6 - /home
> sda7 - swap
>
> As you can see, sda2, 3 and 4 dropped out. When the install is
> finished and the installer is writing grub, I get an error box that
> says, in part, it can’t find sda2. Yet, the suggested boot menu seems
> to point to opensuse 11.1 on sda5.
>
> Anyway, I let it repair itself but grub doesn’t work. On the initial
> reboot, I get a screen blank except for 2 symbols that look like faces
> and no boot. Isn’t there a way to edit grub from the install menu? If
> so, what should grub point to since Windows is at sd1?
Well, I’m on the 4th box here. 2 upgraded from 11.0 with the only hiccup
being a re-install of non-OSE VirtualBox (which needed to be updated
anyway). Even the older nVidia drivers held up. An old standby box updated
from 10.3 quite well but the wife’s laptop (Toshiba dual Celeron) was a
problem. Something in the system had a log directory locked and that
killed several scripts. I had to do a clean install for her but she had
essentially a bone stock machine and the /home was not mucked up (luckily
for me!) so it was a no-brainer to re-install. Still can’t get it to
suspend to RAM but that’s tomorrow’s problem - it never has worked.
Another thread talked about dual booting failure with 10.3. It directed to swerdna’s page on multibooting and his tutorial fixed everything. It wasn’t completely straightforward for a couple of reasons. The guide goes up to 11.0 and in 11.1 some of the clicks are different, but anyone could figure it out. But, the confusing thing was that the guide said always boot from the MBR. The repair tool in 11.1 says don’t boot from the MBR if you have another OS on the disk. swerdna was right.
This answered another question. There must have been some junk left in /home when I installed 11.1 and tried to save my home partition. When I blew out the old home, networkmanager began working like the old days.rotfl!
Had great success upgrading 10.3 to 11.0. I disappointed by the result of migration from 11.0 to 11.1 because several things that works fine in 11.0 is broken in 11.1.
For me, the biggest annoyance get the brightness control - it get maximum brightness on login screen (DELL Vostro 1400). One note, for the account wich I am using since 11.0 (end even early) the brightness get to normal level after login screen. In the same time, for new user account the brightness still on maximum. I suppose, the developers did miss some details.
One more note, seems to me the 11.0 took the CURRENT brightness level from the BIOS but the 11.1 takes the DEFAULT level (that is, actually, maximum value).
The GDM theme !!! It is HORRIBLE, developers! To compare to 11.0 - it is downgrade, it would be better do not touch anythings in case you can not to do better.
I did a DVD re-install and tried to get rid of /home. I’m not good with partitioning and I ended up with something like this: