Hello,
I have a system with SUSE Linux 9.2 Professional installed (Base install - no patches). How can I upgrade this to OpenSUSE 11.4 withiut loosing installed software.
Thank you
Roger
You can’t (IMHO).
You likely need to backup all your ‘data’ and all of your ‘configuration files’ [typically inside /etc] and your /home and then do a fresh install and re-install EVERY THING. The information in the /etc files can be especially useful if you run into difficulty configuration some applications. There may also be ‘configuration’ information in /home/yourusername/. hidden files.
If it were me, I would create a separate partition for openSUSE-11.4 (including separate / and /home partitions) and dual boot between SuSE-9.2 Pro and openSUSE-11.4 and gradually migrate over from 9.2 to 11.4.
On 04/26/2011 10:36 AM, suhrrog wrote:
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> I have a system with SUSE Linux 9.2 Professional installed (Base
> install - no patches).
hi Roger, welcome…happy to hear you got such long service out of 9.2
(i really loved that and 9.3)…
> How can I upgrade this to OpenSUSE 11.4 withiut loosing installed software.
well, i’m sorry to say that there is no supported upgrade path unless
it would be to step from 9.2 to 9.3 to 10.0 to 10.1 etc etc etc… cites:
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade and
http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE/opensuse-reference/cha.update.html
when you say you want to save your installed software, what do you
mean…like you wanna save your old Apache or pine and use with a new
11.4 base system? are we talking a desktop system on a laptop or an
enterprise server in a rack…
the easiest way to get a stable openSUSE system would be to save your
data to an off machine location and do a format install of
11.4–careful, if yours is a desktop-less, or headless server you are
gonna be (probably) disapointed to learn that openSUSE 11.4 is not
your daddy’s SuSE 9.2
the default install of 11.4 with will be a full-up desktop machine with
either KDE, Gnome, LXDE or other GUI…a server install is possible, of
course, but you have select that during install…see:
http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/art.osuse.installquick.html
step 5, to have a full up server you must select “Other” and then . . .
hmmmmm, there is (somewhere) the way to do it, but i can’t find it now…
and, you might note that the service life of openSUSE is far shorter
(see: http://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime) than that of the enterprise
version SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (see:
http://support.novell.com/lifecycle/)…
come to think of it, there may be a smooth easy upgrade path from SUSE
Linux 9.2 Professional to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server version 11, check
it out at novell.com/linux and in their fora at forums.novell.com
let us know what your needs are if you intend to use openSUSE…
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Hello I have SUSE SLED 11 SP1. You can not upgrade from SUSE to openSUSE. The only you can is to save your files as oldcpu said.
On 2011-04-26 13:06, stamostolias wrote:
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> Hello I have SUSE SLED 11 SP1. You can not upgrade from SUSE to
> openSUSE. The only you can is to save your files as oldcpu said.
SuSE Linux Professional is what later became openSUSE. It is the same
distro. It is not SLES.
If I remember correctly, the term “professional” meant the paid DVD vs the
downloaded install.
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(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
You remember correctly about that. But I must find how to upgrade in SUSE, so make sure it is not different process than openSUSE( I mean upgrade process).
On 2011-04-26 10:36, suhrrog wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I have a system with SUSE Linux 9.2 Professional installed (Base
> install - no patches). How can I upgrade this to OpenSUSE 11.4 withiut
> loosing installed software.
It is doable and it is supported - contrary to what others have said >:-P
But it has to be explained, there are limitations:
- It can not be done in one big step.
- It can not be done “live”: that is certainly not supported.
Forget zypper dup. - The support is “past tense” for some of the steps.
- It is a lot of work: you have to do now what you did not do in years.
- I mean DVD boot and upgrade.
You can upgrade to a version 10.x something, by first grabbing the DVD from
somewhere. Perhaps 10.0 or 10.1. On another step go to 10.3 or 11.1. Then
to 11.3.
Now, any of the steps can fail. So you need to make a full backup (image?)
of your current install, sufficiently to restore the system at any point.
It would also be wise to test all of the intermediate steps as fresh
installs on a spare partition (or disk!). For example:
- Install 10.1 on another partition. Find the documentation (pdf
book). Find the upgrade notes. - Test it.
- Backup the main install.
- upgrade the main install.
- clean and debug. Run al the security updates (find links
to unmaintained repos). Check all your software.
Repeat for all steps.
If one step fails, find out why, restore the backup of the previous step,
and repeat the upgrade attempt.
Plus, you can ask problems 
Good luck!
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On 2011-04-26 15:36, stamostolias wrote:
> You remember correctly about that. But I must find how to upgrade in
> SUSE, so make sure it is not different process than openSUSE( I mean
> upgrade process).
I have done many upgrades with that openSUSE professional. It was the
traditional, DVD boot and upgrade method, that is also available now in
openSUSE. The name changed, but it is the same distro.
The problem for him will be to obtain a 10.x DVD, because they were not
freely available. I mean, not downloadable.
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(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The problem for him will be to obtain a 10.x DVD, because they were not
> freely available. I mean, not downloadable.
>
I looked that up for another user in the forum, it seems one can still
download the iso’s from here.
http://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.opensuse.org/discontinued/
at least 10.2 has still the iso files if that helps.
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You mean SUSE. With openSUSE I have made also many upgrades but with SUSE SLED 11 SP1 it is the first time.
And yeahh it is not downloadable and not freely available as openSUSE, unfortunately.
Strange where do you find that?
martin_helm wrote:
> http://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.opensuse.org/discontinued/
> at least 10.2 has still the iso files if that helps.
>
Here are 10.0 iso’s (the folder name is misleading there are also 64bit
versions)
ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/discontinued/i386/10.0/iso/
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On 2011-04-26 16:34, martin_helm wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> The problem for him will be to obtain a 10.x DVD, because they were not
>> freely available. I mean, not downloadable.
>>
> I looked that up for another user in the forum, it seems one can still
> download the iso’s from here.
> http://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.opensuse.org/discontinued/
> at least 10.2 has still the iso files if that helps.
Around that version number Novell took charge, and one of the things they
did was supply the DVD for downloading. With SuSE you had to pay for it⁽¹⁾.
I don’t remember the exact version when they started, but could be be 10.2.
(1) With SuSE on each release they sold the DVD and CDs in one box with a
splendid paper book. Some weeks later they populated the ftp server with
the packages, and the network install CD. So, either we bought the DVD, or
waited some weeks (I don’t remember how many), downloaded the CD and
installed via network. I’m not sure if the CDs for local install were made
available or not; I think not.
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(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> (1) With SuSE on each release they sold the DVD and CDs in one box with a
> splendid paper book. Some weeks later they populated the ftp server with
> the packages, and the network install CD. So, either we bought the DVD, or
> waited some weeks (I don’t remember how many), downloaded the CD and
> installed via network. I’m not sure if the CDs for local install were made
> available or not; I think not.
>
I do also not remember when they started to make the local install disks
available for free. Until 9.1 I bought the boxes. (9.3 I installed by ftp I
guess but my memory can be wrong).
But I am almost sure 10.0 was available as free DVD from the beginning.
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On 2011-04-26 17:06, stamostolias wrote:
> You mean SUSE. With openSUSE I have made also many upgrades but with
> SUSE SLED 11 SP1 it is the first time.
No, I’m not talking of SUSE SLED, but of SuSE Linux Professional, small “u”.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
On 2011-04-26 16:59, martin_helm wrote:
> But I am almost sure 10.0 was available as free DVD from the beginning.
There have been so many changes that it is difficult to be certain when
each thing was done. Could it be that the 10.0 DVD was added later to the
archive, and not at the time?
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Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> There have been so many changes that it is difficult to be certain when
> each thing was done. Could it be that the 10.0 DVD was added later to the
> archive, and not at the time?
>
Well, I simply do not know.
About that time then the change was from 9.3 to 10.0 my memory is not very
reliable what happened when and how exactly. I used 9.3 for a longer time
and tried late the first 10 version. When I installed it a free DVD was
available, but since I do not longer know how long that was after the
initial release of 10.0, it is quite possible that they made it available at
a later time.
This old article (in german) says that it was available as free download
from the beginning (Oct 2005), but I cannot say how reliable this is
http://winfuture.de/news,22591.html
For those interested in old versions there is a collection of download links
in the german openSUSE wiki
http://de.opensuse.org/Spiegelserver_der_eingestellten_Versionen
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Sorry I mean SUSE Sled.
On 2011-04-26 21:06, stamostolias wrote:
> Sorry I mean SUSE Sled.
Yes, but this is not Sled.
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(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Ok sorry my confusion.
You could actually get free SuSE CD’s years earlier than the 10.0 release, at least back to the 7.0 release. SuSE used to send out free CD’s in various Linux magazines, or if you were a developer you could ask them to send you a free copy by mail. Of course, in those days, sending out free CD’s with magazines made more sense, because connecting with a 56k modem to a download mirror that could be thousands of miles away could take you hours to download a CD – IF you could stay connected.
Also, although SuSE wasn’t paying to host free .iso download sites, other websites like “eDonkey” made full .iso’s freely downloadable. Of course, I always just paid the cash for the personal or “pro” version - because I needed the phone support badly. Real, live phone support is something that I miss from the old days.