Upgrade from 11.2 to 11.3 went slightly awry - need an expert! Will pay BEER!!

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#1

Anyways, so I did a repository upgrade to 11.3 last night. Once it was done I rebooted, and the fun began.

First the gui was toast, so I had to fix that issue, it’s good now but it was ugly.

Secondary to that, I get all kinds of USB errors I never saw before while it’s booting up.

It takes 8 - 10 minutes to finish booting up completely…

AND, it won’t shut down all the way.

I can provide what ever log files one might need. Gotta this big stuff fixed so I can get to work on the other little things that don’t work now.

Gotta tell you, I’m a little unhappy that the upgrade went this way. As much as I hate MS, the upgrade on my wifes pc from Vista to 7 was smooth as silk (a little long, but smooth).

Any help would greatly be appreciated.

#2

When you say ‘Upgrade’, do you mean a new install.
Or did you employ some other method.

I recommend a new install, (keeping /home is OK)

#3

I did the repository upgrade/install over the internet. I have a faulty internal dvd player - it won’t let me boot any dvd (even though I can burn to it and read from it).

So I don’t have a way of installing 11.3 clean or I would have.

I can’t tell you how frustrated I am at the troubles I’m going through:
-USB totally inop
-8 to 10 minutes to boot
-no SSD mounting
-no webcam
-sound has to be manually turned up
-system won’t shut off

…any help would be hugely appreciated. I’d beer you, I really would.

#4

If your box can boot from usb, rather do a fresh install from usb using either the netboot image or one of the live images.
If your 11.2 install used the default and /home is on a separate partition, you won’t lose any data.

#5

anytime your performing a distro update you need add all corresponding repos oss, non-oss, yum update debug and src repos and prior to performing the update you have to update the version of zypper for that distro and remove all former 11.2 repos.

You may have the wrong kernel setting for system, did you perform a zypper dup?

If you list the repos you used that would be great? further more you always shutdown linux from terminal window shutdown -h now as root.

#6

I went by the instructions oldcpu posted.

You may have the wrong kernel setting for system, did you perform a zypper dup?

Yes, and what command would tell me the kernel info?

If you list the repos you used that would be great? further more you always shutdown linux from terminal window shutdown -h now as root.

Right now I’m using OSS, NON OSS, Updates, and Packman (all 11.3).

And I had no idea that we shut down openSUSE usint a terminal window. I thought that was what the shut down buttons in the menu was for.??

#7

I’ve struggled with this before. I used unetbootin and various images with very differing results (from awesome to suckage). I also used a command line way of doing it that took a long time, and had the same various results.

If you have a tried and true method that doesn’t require me to have a masters in linux command line voodoo, that would be great.

#8

On 2010-08-25 22:06, YehudahLeib wrote:
>
> Anyways, so I did a repository upgrade to 11.3 last night. Once it was
> done I rebooted, and the fun began.
>
> First the gui was toast, so I had to fix that issue, it’s good now but
> it was ugly.
>
> Secondary to that, I get all kinds of USB errors I never saw before
> while it’s booting up.
>
> It takes 8 - 10 minutes to finish booting up completely…

Are you using NFS mounts? There is a known problem with them, very long booting.

I can’t remember the name of the thread where this was solved. Ah, yes, found it: “nfs timing out
during boot on 11.3”. Or an older one: “nfs weirdness with upgrade to 11.3”, or “11.3: Delay/Hanging
of appr. 3 minutes during boot process”.

>
> AND, it won’t shut down all the way.
>
> I can provide what ever log files one might need.

Make the machine boot in verbose mode (press “Esc” soon, or change “splash=verbose” in grub), so
that you can see the messages as it is trying to boot. Notice what it is doing when it stops.

Later look at the boot.msg log, find that place.

> Gotta tell you, I’m a little unhappy that the upgrade went this way.
> As much as I hate MS, the upgrade on my wifes pc from Vista to 7 was
> smooth as silk (a little long, but smooth).

Yes, upgrades need some work. Don’t heed too much the crowd telling you to re-install fresh :stuck_out_tongue:

… because often you will get the same problem when you migrate your things to the new install. But
it helps if you previously installed the new version fresh into a small partition to see if it works.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” GM (Elessar))

#9

On 2010-08-26 03:36, YehudahLeib wrote:

> Yes, and what command would tell me the kernel info?

uname -a

rpm -qa | grep -i kernel

> And I had no idea that we shut down openSUSE usint a terminal window.
> I thought that was what the shut down buttons in the menu was for.??

There are many things that can be run from a command line. It is specially good in case of problems.
Me, I never power-off from inside the desktop menu.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” GM (Elessar))

#10

The new 11.3 live images will boot directly from usb. You need to use dd to simply copy them to the usb.
Look at this page for a how to:
SDB:Live USB stick - openSUSE
If you scroll down to ‘The hard way’ you will find the dd instructions.
Beware, it will overwrite your usb stick.

Else:
open a terminal and cd to the download directory of the live iso.
Now become root by typing su and the root password.
Without the usb stick plugged in type fdisk -l (lowercase L)
Note the output.
Connect the usb stick and enter fdisk -l again.
Note what the mount point is for the usb stick (Something like /dev/sdx)
Now just simply type:

dd if=live.iso of=/dev/sdx

Where live.iso is the name of the live openSUSE iso.

(To save typing for the iso name you can use the tab key:
Type dd if=open{tab}
And as long as you have typed enough of the name, it will auto complete.)

This is probably quicker than trying to figure what went wrong with the distro update.

#11

One of the problems I’m having is that USB does not work… so I can’t copy a LIVE ISO to a USB right now.

Question: If the Live ISO is bootable, can I do it from Windows? And would it be as easy as copying the ISO to the flash drive?

Thanks

#12

Hi,

YehudahLeib <YehudahLeib@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> writes:

> One of the problems I’m having is that USB does not work… so I can’t
> copy a LIVE ISO to a USB right now.
>
> Question: If the Live ISO is bootable, can I do it from Windows? And
> would it be as easy as copying the ISO to the flash drive?
>
> Thanks

You can copy the iso to a CD/DVD/USB within windows, if that’s what
you’re asking.

–
Regards,
Barry

#13

If you look at the link I gave you for the openSUSE sdb wiki, you will find instructions for creating a live usb with windows.

#14

I’m totally lost here.

I followed the instructions.

When booting from USB, after the initial splash screen where you can select the kind of action you want (install, live, etc), I get another screen with a lizard for a few minutes… then I get a black screen with command line voodoo… it shows that my USB isn’t working… and then it restarts.

>:(

Very frustrating… and what I get for wanting to update.

#15

Can we start from the beginning?

After my update from 11.2 to 11.3 via repository, my USB does not work. I really need to fix it. Please tell me what I need to do. I’m lost, frustrated, and just want my laptop to work.

#16

linux-dbrq:/home/yehudah # uname -a
Linux linux-dbrq.site 2.6.34-12-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2010-06-29 02:39:08 +0200 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
linux-dbrq:/home/yehudah # rpm -qa | grep -i kernel
kernel-desktop-2.6.34-12.3.i586
kernel-firmware-20100617-2.2.noarch
kernel-devel-2.6.34-12.3.noarch
kernel-desktop-devel-2.6.34-12.3.i586
kernel-debug-2.6.34-12.3.i586
kernel-debug-devel-2.6.34-12.3.i586
kernel-source-2.6.34-12.3.noarch

That’s a start but more than shutting down… I’m really stressing the non-functional USB

#17

Please. I’m begging.

Since my jaunt into openSUSE (11.2), I’ve had to live with a DVD drive that will not allow a Live DVD/CD to boot; no USB at all; consistent Evolution crashing, no use of my SSD or SD Card reader.

Since I’ve gone from Windows7, my laptop has not been the same.

I’m begging, please… someone help me get my laptop working in 11.3. I’m at my wits end, and I’m close to shelving this laptop. I seriously don’t know what else to do. I’ll even entertain allowing someone to remote into my laptop if needed.

Please.

#18

Here is what I get when I try to load 11.3 via USB (phone pic… sorry):

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs377.snc4/46069_1484619688303_1618225432_1159067_44554_n.jpg

#19

On 2010-08-27 03:06, YehudahLeib wrote:
>
> Carlos E. R.;2212265 Wrote:
>> On 2010-08-26 03:36, YehudahLeib wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, and what command would tell me the kernel info?
>>
>> uname -a
>>
>> rpm -qa | grep -i kernel
>>
>>
>
> linux-dbrq:/home/yehudah # uname -a
> Linux linux-dbrq.site 2.6.34-12-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2010-06-29
> 02:39:08 +0200 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
> linux-dbrq:/home/yehudah # rpm -qa | grep -i kernel
> kernel-desktop-2.6.34-12.3.i586
> kernel-firmware-20100617-2.2.noarch
> kernel-devel-2.6.34-12.3.noarch
> kernel-desktop-devel-2.6.34-12.3.i586
> kernel-debug-2.6.34-12.3.i586
> kernel-debug-devel-2.6.34-12.3.i586
> kernel-source-2.6.34-12.3.noarch

It looks good to me.

> That’s a start but more than shutting down… I’m really stressing the
> non-functional USB

I thought that your biggest problem was a very slow boot, several minutes. And I told you I think it
is a known problem with NFS mounts, and where to look for it, and if it is not that, where to look.

About the USB thing, we need logs, too (use pastebin). Please be patient, concentrate in one
problem. Forget attempting to reinstall fresh, there is no guarantee that that will work any better.
It might, and it might not.

Next time, never install a new system destroying your previous system without having tested it
before, in order to know if it works in your computer. Now you know why - the hard way.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” GM (Elessar))

#20

You have RAID 0 on a notebook?? With 25,000 RPM disks and a terabyte of memory???

Ok first off lose the RAID It is most likely BIOS/FAKE RAID and will probably not work with Linux. Also may require special drivers for Windows to work right with it. If you want RAID set it up as software RAID on the install. You should be able to disable in the BIOS. Then totaly wipe both disks before attempting to install.