upgrade 12.1 -> 12.2 -> 12.3 ... Dolphin drive properties gone

I just finished upgrading my machines to 12.3 and it became rather difficult to get drive information. In the “Places” toolbar in Dolphin, I used to “mouse over” the hard drive icon/name and a small bar would display the approximate disk usage - but now that feature is gone? Does anyone know of a way to reenable that?

TY!!!
patti

EDIT: Oh, wait a minute - maybe that’s that skinny little underline bar that fades out so it’s hard to see… :wink: My bad…

Apparently this feature was omitted on purpose.

http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=223&t=108472

Scroll down to the fourth message from the bottom on the first page for comments by the developer.

Nowadays, it takes a few steps but I get the info by

Click on a “Places” that represents a partition on the disk I want to analyze

eg
For /home, click /home
For /, click “root”

Then in the main pane
Rt-click and select “Properties” for any <directory> in the “Places” I want to analyze

eg
After selecting “home” any <directory> (not file), this is because by default openSUSE does not mount other partitions within “home”

After selecting “/” any <directory> that is not /home or any of the mount point directories that are mounted into RAM.
eg, do <not> inspect the properties of directories like /home, /var/tmp
You <can> inspect the properties of directories like /boot, /srv, /root

Of course,
From this you should quickly notice that although it’s easy to get the info you seek, it requires knowing which partitions and mount points should be inspected and which will give you different info.

Your basic mounted partitions on boot

cat /etc/fstab

Some additional partitions and mount points which include those that are mounted to RAM (so won’t give you disk info)

df

An alternative to Dolphin is the KDE KInfocenter (There should be a shortcut link on your KDE Desktop by default).

HTH,
TSU

Too bad!! That was an extraordinarily useful glyph (I have a lot of hard drives) and allowed me to keep things straight. All drives, immediately, in one location. One of the features of Dolphin I relied upon. I’ll have to figure a simple way to live without it - don’t know how I will at this point.

I know there are always other ways to get data you need, but to be able in under a second to visually know all your drives’ relative fullness was a real blessing for me. My mind gets full really fast and making system knowledge more complex to retrieve is unhelpful, you know? Maybe they will give the option to turn it back on at some point. Ya, that would be good.

Might want to pass that on to a KDE mail list

Tried to register there - had some trouble. I found a temporary fix - just upgrade only to 12.2 :slight_smile:

Wish I could downgrade 12.3 -> 12.2 :wink: but 12.2 too shall pass… :-))

Patricia

Likely has little to do with the OS, more likely the KDE version.
Maybe KDE3?

TSU

Oh - yes, of course! :slight_smile: Maybe I can downgrade KDE from the version in 12.3 to the version in 12.2? Is that even possible? I wonder if it would break 12.3?

Why I said get to a KDE mail list and make your case to those that can do something about it.

Though you can down grade it (if you can find the files) you will run into many problems and updates will probably not happen.

You need to decide if the functionality is worth the pain it will cause.

On 2013-07-16 19:26, PattiMichelle wrote:
>
> tsu2;2572307 Wrote:
>> Likely has little to do with the OS, more likely the KDE version.
>> Maybe KDE3?
>>
>> TSU
>
> Oh - yes, of course! :slight_smile: Maybe I can downgrade KDE from the version in
> 12.3 to the version in 12.2? Is that even possible? I wonder if it
> would break 12.3?

If you really want KDE3, it is available for 12.3.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

Hi Robin: I was wondering if changing to a slightly older version of KDE4 would “break” opensuse 12.3 in any noticable manner - or even if the repos supported such downgrading. I guess it must be OK since you mention KDE3, which is a much larger downgrade. :slight_smile:

Thanks,
Patti

KDE3 and KDE4 are independent from each other, so that would not really be a downgrade, but just a fresh install of KDE3.

It is NOT easily possible to use dolphin from 12.2 on 12.3, you would have to compile it from source. Sorry.
And installing all KDE4 packages from 12.2 on your 12.3 system wouldn’t work either I guess. The only possibility would be to downgrade your whole system to 12.2.

Of course one could easily branch the KDE 4.8.5 packages on OBS and compile them for 12.3, but AFAIK nobody has done that yet.

But as has already been suggested, you could just use KInfocentre to get a list of all your drives and their free space.
Or kdf:
http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/17/kdf.png

On 2013-07-17 16:26, PattiMichelle wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2572361 Wrote:

>> If you really want KDE3, it is available for 12.3.

> Hi Robin: I was wondering if changing to a slightly older version of
> KDE4 would “break” opensuse 12.3 in any noticable manner - or even if
> the repos supported such downgrading. I guess it must be OK since you
> mention KDE3, which is a much larger downgrade. :slight_smile:

KDE3 and 4 can be installed side by side, they are each independent.
Install KDE3 if you feel nostalgic, or, like me, you need apps that have
not been ported.

Downgrading KDE4 to the version in 12.2 I don’t think is really
feasible, unless somebody packages it for 12.3. Things would break.

I think it is better that you accept that missing feature, having drive
properties displayed always, well, as missing. As they say, displaying
it always can delay the application a lot under some circumstances.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

I have created kdebase4-4.8.5 packages (including dolphin) for openSUSE 12.3.

You can get them here:
Index of /repositories/home:/wolfi323:/branches:/KDE:/Release:/48/openSUSE_12.3
(you can add this URL as repo in YaST)

I would suggest to only install those packages from there, that are needed to fulfill dolphin’s dependencies…

I haven’t tested it thoroughly, but at least it starts.
But I won’t take any responsibility for those packages! :wink:

You can also install package “kio_sysinfo” and then make a desktop link to it (right-click on desktop–>Create New–>Link to location…). Put “sysinfo:/” in the space “Enter link to location (URL):”. This is actually the old “System Information” that used to appear on the KDE desktop.

good tip, thanx

Yes, good tip! I’ve used kdirstat for some time - but kdf looks to be more useful for a top-level view - thanks :slight_smile:

I’ll just have to let that feature go in Dolphin - unless I can figure out how to “dock” kdf into dolphin! (hah!)