Update to Firefox 27

So, it seems that firefox 27 has been out for few days but I still don’t see update coming. How long is it usually for firefox update to hit OpenSuse Repo?

I’m using OpenSuse 13.1 with Packman, OSS, Non-OSS and Update repository enabled. Current Firefox version is MozillaFirefox-26.0-4.2.x86_64.

It will probably be there within a few more days. I’m patient.

Isn’t firefox (web browsers) considered as security sensitive software that need to be updated as soon as it is released?

But somebody has to create the packages as well…

Btw, it is already in the test-update repo, so should be released as official update in the next days:
http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.1-test/

And it’s also available from the mozilla repo on OBS:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_13.1

Thanks wolfi,

I asked because it has been more than 3 days since new firefox version was released and I wondered if there was something wrong with my update or maybe I missed a necessary repository. Still, i think it should not take this long.

It takes a while to create the packages and test them.

And now there’s the weekend as well…

A normal update takes about a week to be released, in the case of critical security updates this may be shortcut I think.

Its often in some Linux flavors that updates are held back sometimes, especially if its a non essential upgrade.
Sure new releases might fix bugs but there could be regressions, unless its a major security patch its never rushed.
Patience is a virtue.

Yes, there are security issues. However, we are running linux. That means that we are not running firefox as root. So it is a lot harder to exploit a firefox security problem on linux.

I can wait a few days.

And even if you were running root in linux (which you shouldn’t) many exploits mainly target windows not linux.

Thanks all, I see the point not to rush packaging software unless it is really necessary. Middle ground between stability, security and the latest software I suppose. It just that I’m used to get firefox update on the same day or the next day on Windows and Ubuntu, not complaining here :slight_smile:

You can generally get faster updates with other repositories if you desire. Such as here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_13.1/

If you were in charge of distributing a very popular program, wouldn’t you test it a few days before you launched it for thousands of users? Sure, Mozilla tests it but they probably don’t test it for openSUSE specific problems.

On 2014-02-07 18:26, nrickert wrote:
>
> airilsra;2622847 Wrote:
>> How long is it usually for firefox update to hit OpenSuse Repo?
> It will probably be there within a few more days. I’m patient.

There has been a mozilla update today.

Or, you can use the test repo instead.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

Thanks, but I will stick with standard repo.

Sure, I am.

Yup, installed it just now.

airilsra wrote:

>
> nightwishfan;2623100 Wrote:
>> You can generally get faster updates with other repositories if you
>> desire. Such as here:
>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_13.1/
>>
>> If you were in charge of distributing a very popular program,
>> wouldn’t you test it a few days before you launched it for thousands
>> of users? Sure, Mozilla tests it but they probably don’t test it for
>> openSUSE specific problems.
>
> Thanks, but I will stick with standard repo.
>
> Sure, I am.
>
> robin_listas;2623117 Wrote:
>> On 2014-02-07 18:26, nrickert wrote:
>> >
>> > airilsra;2622847 Wrote:
>> >> How long is it usually for firefox update to hit OpenSuse Repo?
>> > It will probably be there within a few more days. I’m patient.
>>
>> There has been a mozilla update today.
>>
>> Or, you can use the test repo instead.
>>
>> –
>> Cheers / Saludos,
>>
>> Carlos E. R.
>>
>> (from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
>
> Yup, installed it just now.
>
I got it from the openSUSE 13.1 update repo this morning. Installed and
appears to work ok so far.

openSUSE 13.1(Linux 3.11.6-4-desktop x86_64|
Intel(R) Quad Core™ i5-4440 CPU @ 3.10GHz|8GB DDR3|
GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.38)|KDE 4.12.2

upscope wrote:

> airilsra wrote:
>
>>
>> nightwishfan;2623100 Wrote:
>>> You can generally get faster updates with other repositories if you
>>> desire. Such as here:
>>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_13.1/
>>>
>>> If you were in charge of distributing a very popular program,
>>> wouldn’t you test it a few days before you launched it for thousands
>>> of users? Sure, Mozilla tests it but they probably don’t test it for
>>> openSUSE specific problems.
>>
>> Thanks, but I will stick with standard repo.
>>
>> Sure, I am.
>>
>> robin_listas;2623117 Wrote:
>>> On 2014-02-07 18:26, nrickert wrote:
>>> >
>>> > airilsra;2622847 Wrote:
>>> >> How long is it usually for firefox update to hit OpenSuse Repo?
>>> > It will probably be there within a few more days. I’m patient.
>>>
>>> There has been a mozilla update today.
>>>
>>> Or, you can use the test repo instead.
>>>
>>> –
>>> Cheers / Saludos,
>>>
>>> Carlos E. R.
>>>
>>> (from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
>>
>> Yup, installed it just now.
>>
> I got it from the openSUSE 13.1 update repo this morning. Installed and
> appears to work ok so far.

I got it from the buildservice repo
( http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_13.1/)
either yesterday or the day before. Same for a couple of 12.3 installs I
still have around. No problems with any of them so far.


Will Honea

Yeah each distro has its own policies for upgrades, some dont even use the latest as a choice in favor of stability.
Like Mageia using Firefox ESR or debian using iceweasel (debians in house unbranded build of firefox) ESR on stable.

On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 02:26:02 +0000, airilsra wrote:

> wolfi323;2623023 Wrote:
>> But somebody has to create the packages as well…
>>
>> Btw, it is already in the test-update repo, so should be released as
>> official update in the next days:
>> http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.1-test/
>>
>> And it’s also available from the mozilla repo on OBS:
>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_13.1
>
> Thanks wolfi,
>
> I asked because it has been more than 3 days since new firefox version
> was released and I wondered if there was something wrong with my update
> or maybe I missed a necessary repository. Still, i think it should not
> take this long.

I’m sure you’d rather it worked than be released before it was fully
tested, no?

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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Thanks. I raised this question more because I don’t familiar with OpenSuse update policies towards firefox update. Now that I know, I’m okay with few days delays for testing purpose. But I notice on OpenSuse I get less frequent security update for firefox compared on my experience with Ubuntu that usually have several security updates between releases. I’m not sure if this is the case with this particular version or policy in general.

Hi, Jim. Yes I prefer that way.

On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 01:36:01 +0000, airilsra wrote:

> hendersj;2623307 Wrote:
>> I’m sure you’d rather it worked than be released before it was fully
>> tested, no?
>>
>> Jim
>
> Hi, Jim. Yes I prefer that way.

Then patience is going to be needed, because it takes time to verify that
the package works properly.

The packages are maintained largely by volunteers (though some have
suse.com addresses). It’s important to bear that in mind.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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