update-problen today evening

After today evening’s Xorg or KDE 4.1.2-update comes bad problem!

Gui jum! Plasma palk at the bottom crash and GUI expire all!

Help please!

and warning others!

I’m having problems as well. Plasma has frozen completely, I can’t click anything. The buttons are all over the place. The system tray icons are all on top of each other. It is using 20% of my CPU and 100-200 MB of RAM (it has barely ever even been a blip on my RAM or CPU usage before). I tried deleting my plasma configuration settings but it didn’t do anything. The problem is happening on two different computers.

Same problem here, too. :frowning:

FWIW, the servers went down for a while.

The problem isn’t with installing an update, the problem is that plasma is broken after the update is complete.

No problem here

Do not trust kDE4 for now I use still KDE3 or Gnome in opensue
Because get problems too with KDE4 in opensuse
dobby9

Got taken out by a bad kde4 update too. Any fix? Most waiting for the repos to update and hope zypper will fix us?

It has never been broken for me. There has been a new update recently, if doesn’t fix your problems start to give more info…

zypper -v ve
zypper se -s -r kde4_factory_desktop | fgrep '(System Packages)'
  • Gfx card?
  • If using binary drivers: version? From repository?

To start with.

“zypper -v ve” returns no problems except that a dependency for squidGuard is ignored: It wants squid2 but works fine with squid3, too.

“zypper se -s -r kde4_factory_desktop | fgrep ‘(System Packages)’” returns that the repository is not found (I am using openSUSE 11.0 x86_64 with the additional KDE4.1 repositories).

It seems plasma works fine in the first seconds after logging in. I can use the start menu to start programs and interact with plasmoids.

This changes as soon as autostart kicks in. Plasma takes up 80% CPU (slowly increasing) and hangs. I can use previously started programs but cannot interact with plasma, not even the desktop background refreshes after moving a window.

I have a NVidia 8800 GTS 640 MB and use the 177.80 drivers (non-repository). They worked for some time before the update and still work fine when using other display managers. I have not enabled desktop effects in KDE.

These are my repositories, note that some repos, including all KDE4.0, are disabled.

#  | Alias                                                                           | Name                                          | Enabled | Refresh
---+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+---------+--------
1  | KDE_4.0_Core_Desktop                                                            | KDE 4.0 Core Desktop                          | No      | Yes
2  | KDE_4.1_Qt_Packages                                                             | KDE 4.1 Qt Packages                           | Yes     | Yes
3  | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.0/                | openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla               | Yes     | Yes
4  | KDE_4.0_Extra_Apps                                                              | KDE 4.0 Extra Apps                            | No      | Yes
5  | KDE_4.1_Core_Desktop                                                            | KDE 4.1 Core Desktop                          | Yes     | Yes
6  | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.0/ | openSUSE BuildService - OpenOffice.org        | No      | Yes
7  | openSUSE-DVD-Magazine 11.0                                                      | openSUSE-DVD-Magazine 11.0                    | Yes     | No
8  | openSUSE-11.0-Wine                                                              | openSUSE-11.0-Wine                            | Yes     | Yes
9  | Java:addon                                                                      | Java:addon                                    | Yes     | Yes
10 | NVIDIA Repository                                                               | NVIDIA Repository                             | No      | Yes
11 | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/drivers:/webcam/openSUSE_11.0_Update/ | openSUSE BuildService - Drivers for webcams   | No      | Yes
12 | KDE_4.0_Community                                                               | KDE 4.0 Community                             | No      | Yes
13 | KDE_4.1_Extra_Apps                                                              | KDE 4.1 Extra Apps                            | Yes     | Yes
14 | openSUSE-11.0-Updates                                                           | openSUSE-11.0-Updates                         | Yes     | Yes
15 | repo-non-oss                                                                    | openSUSE-11.0-Non-Oss                         | Yes     | No
16 | http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.0/                        | VideoLan Repository                           | Yes     | Yes
17 | openSUSE_BuildService_-_OpenOffice.org_Extras                                   | openSUSE BuildService - OpenOffice.org Extras | No      | Yes
18 | repo-debug                                                                      | openSUSE-11.0-Debug                           | No      | No
19 | Qt_4.4                                                                          | Qt 4.4                                        | Yes     | Yes
20 | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_11.0/                  | openSUSE BuildService - Games                 | Yes     | Yes
21 | http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.0/                                     | Packman Repository                            | No      | Yes
22 | repo-oss                                                                        | openSUSE-11.0-Oss                             | Yes     | No
23 | KDE_4.1_Community                                                               | KDE 4.1 Community                             | Yes     | Yes
24 | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database/openSUSE_11.0/       | openSUSE BuildService - Database              | Yes     | Yes

One thing is for sure
you have way too many repos

you should only need one of the QT repo’s
most are using QT (some use QT44)

You don’t need VLC enabled
you only need ONE package from VLC: libdvdcss

====================================================

These are the 4.1 repo’s I use

Desktop:
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.0

Extra:
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_11.0

Community:
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.0_KDE4_Factory_Desktop

QT:
Index of /repositories/KDE:/Qt/openSUSE_11.0

I updated on the 28th and that was what broke my desktop. Nothing for kde4 is showing up in refreshing zypper today (yet).

zypper -v ve

Comes back clean.

zypper se -s -r kde4_factory_desktop | fgrep '(System Packages)'

Not found. I am using the factory:desktop repo. I may add the community one after work and see if that will find a plasma update.

  • Gfx card?

Laptop - Nvidia Quatro

  • If using binary drivers: version? From repository?

From Nvidia repo

Latest update is from 2008-10-29 14:21:23.

kdelibs4$ osc buildhistory openSUSE_11.0 x86_64 | tail -n 5
2008-10-22 00:16:59   20849da3e60414780e8541dc7ed01e77     58    4.1.2-45.3
2008-10-22 01:15:37   20849da3e60414780e8541dc7ed01e77     58    4.1.2-45.4
2008-10-22 17:42:46   9dd508e25424afa4cc8dc5dcd2509936     59    4.1.2-46.1
2008-10-23 13:36:33   c74c91ec9f4f11dafb245f74cee5f280     60    4.1.2-48.1
2008-10-29 14:21:23   47ead4afe3b846144dbdfe262e88c271     61    4.1.2-49.1

kde4_factory_desktop is the name I have for the repo, put whatever name do you use.

I though it was just a “recompile the driver” problem. It seems it isn’t.

I experienced the same problem, and I believe it all boils down to the system tray. Notice that it is always the case regardless of a new or existing user account.
I will try removing the system tray by hand from my plasma-appletsrc and see if that’s the culprit.

# zypper se -s -r KDE_4.1_Core_Desktop | fgrep '(System Packages)'
i | libQtWebKit-devel                              | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-2.1    | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | libQtWebKit4                                   | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-2.1    | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | libqt4                                         | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-1.1    | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | libqt4-devel                                   | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-1.1    | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | libqt4-devel-doc                               | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-2.1    | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | libqt4-devel-doc-data                          | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-2.1    | noarch | (System Packages)
i | libqt4-qt3support                              | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-1.1    | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | libqt4-sql                                     | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-1.1    | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | libqt4-sql-mysql                               | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-2.1    | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | libqt4-sql-sqlite                              | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-1.1    | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | libqt4-sql-unixODBC                            | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-2.1    | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | libqt4-x11                                     | package    | 4.4.3+20081029-1.1    | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | python-qt4                                     | package    | 4.4.3-8.18            | x86_64 | (System Packages)

Seems to return only Qt packages. Some important looking packages listed when not using fgrep:

i | kdebase4                                       | package    | 4.1.2-52.3            | x86_64 | KDE 4.1 Core Desktop
i | kdelibs4                                       | package    | 4.1.2-49.1            | x86_64 | KDE 4.1 Core Desktop
i | kdelibs4-core                                  | package    | 4.1.2-49.1            | x86_64 | KDE 4.1 Core Desktop
i | libkde4                                        | package    | 4.1.2-49.1            | x86_64 | KDE 4.1 Core Desktop
i | libplasma1                                     | package    | 4.0.4-24.95           | x86_64 | KDE 4.1 Core Desktop

The version reported by libplasma1 is suspicious. libplasma1* are the only packages across all KDE4.1 repositories having a version beginning with 4.0.4*. :sarcastic:

Maybe the KDE4.0 version slipped into the 4.1 repository?

I just downloaded the latest kernel on the update on Oct/28/2008 at 19:50. I rebooted my laptop after the update as indicated by yast-up2date. The laptop follows the normal boot process for run level 3 “so that I can install the proper nVidia Driver” loading the kernel then the daemons. When the last daemon has loaded as listed in the /etc/init.d/rc3.d/ directory. OpenSuse 11 hanges at this point. I am unable to get past this point. I can boot the laptop in single user mode and turn off daemons but this has no affect. What did this latest kernel do to my laptop? It appears that I will have to recover my laptop from backup. I should not have to this kernel update should not have done this. Has any one else experienced this same problem? Of is this a unique issue to just my Laptop?

gvtlinux

The KDE from KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop is compiled against the Qt from the same repository (at least for openSUSE 11.0).
Ideally should not be problems. But if you run appA, compiled against libB, using libC the result can be anything…

So, change all these Qt4 packages to the version from KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop.

I also have libplasma1-4.0.4-24.95 installed, and there are no problems (GeForce FX 7600GT with 177.80 driver).

That works, problem solved! Thanks a lot! :slight_smile:

Does this mean removing all the Qt4 repositories? (I can’t really run tests till tonight) If not, which ones should be removed?