Update problems

GofBorg · November 16, 2012, 7:38pm

For awhile now I’ve had problems with the following:

openSUSE-2012-565- kdeenlive: align mlt dependencies with packman
openSUSE-2012-588- KDE: 4.8.5 stable update
openSUSE-2012-751- update for libqt4

Any attempt to ‘Apply’ in Apper yields:

patch:openSUSE-2012-588-1.noarch conflicts with kdeartwork4-
wallpapers.noarch < 4.8.5-2.4.1 provided by kdeartwork4-
wallpapers-4.8.4-186.1.noarch<br>patch:openSUSE-2012-565-1.noarch conflicts
with libmlt4.i586 < 0.7.8-2.4.1 provided by
libmlt4-0.7.6-1.8.i586<br>patch:openSUSE-2012-751-1.noarch conflicts with
libqt4-devel-doc-data.noarch < 4.8.1-2.4.2 provided by libqt4-devel-doc-
data-4.8.0-247.2.noarch

zypper lr -d below:

1 | nvidia | nvidia | Yes
| Yes | 99 | rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/12.2/
|
2 | openSUSE-12.2-1.6 | openSUSE-12.2-1.6 | No
| No | 99 | yast2 | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-
TSSTcorpCD_DVDW_SH-W162L |
3 | packman-essentials | packman-essentials | Yes
| Yes | 99 | rpm-md |
http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_12.2/Essentials/ |
4 | packman-multimedia | packman-multimedia | Yes
| Yes | 99 | rpm-md |
http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_12.2/Multimedia/ |
5 | repo-debug | openSUSE-12.2-Debug | No
| Yes | 99 | NONE |
http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/ |
6 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Debug | No
| Yes | 99 | NONE |
http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.2/ |
7 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | No
| Yes | 99 | NONE |
http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.2-non-oss/ |
8 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-12.2-Non-Oss | Yes
| Yes | 99 | yast2 |
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2/repo/non-oss/ |
9 | repo-oss | openSUSE-12.2-Oss | Yes
| Yes | 99 | yast2 |
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/ |
10 | repo-source | openSUSE-12.2-Source | No
| Yes | 99 | NONE |
http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/ |
11 | repo-update | openSUSE-12.2-Update | Yes
| Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.2/
|
12 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Non-Oss | Yes
| Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.2-
non-oss/

robin_listas · November 16, 2012, 7:48pm

On 2012-11-16 19:38, GofBorg wrote:
> zypper lr -d below:

Unreadable.
Please use code tags. Advanced editor, ‘#’ button.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

GofBorg · November 16, 2012, 8:09pm

> Advanced editor, ‘#’ button.

I don’t know what this means. I am posting via NNTP.
Here is my best effort at cleaning it up.

<code>
1 |nvidia | nvidia Yes| Yes| 99|rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/12.2/
2 | openSUSE-12.2-1.6| openSUSE-12.2-1.6 | No| No|99|yast2| cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-TSSTcorpCD_DVDW_SH-W162L
3 | packman-essentials| packman-essentials | Yes| Yes|99| rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_12.2/Essentials/
4 | packman-multimedia| packman-multimedia| Yes| Yes|99| rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_12.2/Multimedia/
5 | repo-debug| openSUSE-12.2-Debug| No| Yes|99| NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/
6 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Debug| No | Yes |99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.2/
7 | repo-debug-update-non-oss|openSUSE-12.2-Update-Debug-Non-Oss|No|Yes|99|NONE|http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.2-
non-oss/
8 | repo-non-oss| openSUSE-12.2-Non-Oss| Yes | Yes|99|yast2| http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2/repo/non-oss/
9 | repo-oss| openSUSE-12.2-Oss| Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/
10 | repo-source| openSUSE-12.2-Source | No| Yes|99| NONE| http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/
11 | repo-update | openSUSE-12.2-Update | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.2/
12 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Non-Oss| Yes| Yes |99 |rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.2-non-oss/
</code>

robin_listas · November 17, 2012, 3:08am

On 2012-11-16 20:09, GofBorg wrote:
>> Advanced editor, ‘#’ button.
>
> I don’t know what this means. I am posting via NNTP.

Me too.

Then use open square bracket, CODE, close bracket. At the end, same
thing with a ‘/’ before the code word. Like this:


code inside.

Here is my best effort at cleaning it up.

It is wrapped, difficult to read. Look how I do it:


> minas-tirith:~ # zypper lr --details
> #  | Alias                              | Name                                        | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                                      | Service
> ---+------------------------------------+---------------------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
>  1 | Ext_Packman                        | Packman Repository                          | Yes     | Yes     |  120     | rpm-md | http://packman.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.4/                                                  |
>  2 | Ext_google-talkplugin              | Google Talk Plugin                          | Yes     | Yes     |  110     | rpm-md | http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/rpm/stable/x86_64                                                  |
>  3 | Ext_libdvdcss                      | libdvdcss repository                        | Yes     | Yes     |  120     | rpm-md | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/11.4/
....

You have to use a fixed width font and make sure your editor does not wrap.

I’ll have to edit yours.



> 1 |nvidia                           | nvidia                               Yes| Yes|99| rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/12.2/
> 2 | openSUSE-12.2-1.6               | openSUSE-12.2-1.6                  | No | No |99| yast2| cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-TSSTcorpCD_DVDW_SH-W162L
> 3 | packman-essentials              | packman-essentials                 | Yes| Yes|99| rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_12.2/Essentials/
> 4 | packman-multimedia              | packman-multimedia                 | Yes| Yes|99| rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_12.2/Multimedia/
> 5 | repo-debug                      | openSUSE-12.2-Debug                | No | Yes|99| NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/
> 6 | repo-debug-update               | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Debug         | No | Yes|99| NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.2/
> 7 | repo-debug-update-non-oss       | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | No | Yes|99| NONE   |http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.2- non-oss/
> 8 | repo-non-oss                    | openSUSE-12.2-Non-Oss              | Yes| Yes|99| yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2/repo/non-oss/
> 9 | repo-oss                        | openSUSE-12.2-Oss                  | Yes| Yes|99| yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/
> 10 | repo-source                    | openSUSE-12.2-Source               | No | Yes|99| NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/
> 11 | repo-update                    | openSUSE-12.2-Update               | Yes| Yes|99| rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.2/
> 12 | repo-update-non-oss            | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Non-Oss       | Yes| Yes|99|rpm-md  | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.2-non-oss/

Your repo list looks fine to me. Maybe I would set packman priorities
different. I don’t see you have any extra repo, like for kde.

I would just use plain Yast Online Update module to apply patches, and
see what happens. I’m not familiar with apper to try solve its nuances.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

caf4926 · November 17, 2012, 4:15am

Don’t use Apper is my recommend

Do this on repos 3 and 4
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Switcher%20Pics/11.4_packman_switch.png

From here on only use

zypper up

user · November 17, 2012, 9:15am

On 11/16/2012 07:48 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Please use code tags.

he is using nntp.

–
dd

user · November 17, 2012, 9:29am

On 11/16/2012 07:38 PM, GofBorg wrote:
> Any attempt to ‘Apply’ in Apper yields:

what happens if you don’t use Apper and instead

reset the update repo to a higher priority, like say 95 (you can do
that easily in YaST Software Repositories…)
then launch YaST Online Update

some of ‘they’ say apper works great in 12.2; other ‘they’ say to use
apper only as a signal that you should run either YaST or zypper (but
never actually use apper to install/uninstall anything); other ‘they’
say to disable or uninstall apper!

you be the judge or what is best for you!! if you disable or uninstall
it then it will be up to you to run YaST Online Update or ‘zypper patch’
occasionally (weekly, daily or ???)…

[note the developing ‘they’ are discussing if apper will be included in
12.3, or not…stay tuned]

–
dd

robin_listas · November 17, 2012, 1:15pm

On 2012-11-17 09:15, dd wrote:
> On 11/16/2012 07:48 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> Please use code tags.
>
> he is using nntp.

So are we
And I use code tags.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

knurpht · November 17, 2012, 1:23pm

Done like this

[noparse]

 output text here

[/noparse]

user · November 17, 2012, 3:03pm

On 11/17/2012 01:26 PM, Knurpht wrote:
> Done like this

looks like this: http://susepaste.org/76028734

–
dd

consused · November 17, 2012, 5:14pm

I didn’t have those conflicts. I haven’t installed “openSUSE-2012-565 - kdeenlive: align mlt dependencies with packman” and I don’t have kdenlive installed.

Re “openSUSE-2012-751 - update for libqt4”, note libqt4-devel-doc-data is not installed here. The patch installed without intervention.

Re “openSUSE-2012-588 - KDE: 4.8.5 stable update”, installed without intervention, and now have kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.8.5-2.4.1.noarch.

Enabled repos: same as yours, except no nvidia repo and no cd: repo ; all still with default priorities, but normally I raise packman (i.e. lower its number).

GofBorg · November 19, 2012, 5:14pm

> [note the developing ‘they’ are discussing if apper will be included in
> 12.3, or not…stay tuned]

Well, I hope they don’t give up on it just because it has teething problems.
I set the repo to 95, and the ran YaST OU. I got a load of red carnage about
packages that needed to be changed around. I wholesale accepted the changes
since it appeared the packages that were causing issues were out of date. It
is running now.

GofBorg · November 19, 2012, 5:16pm

> zypper up

Well the issue I was having with zypper was it would give me a long list of
‘packages that will not be upgraded’ followed by ‘nothing to do’.

caf4926 · November 19, 2012, 6:04pm

That happens, particualrly if you have switched on a repo. Eg Packman. Which is exactly the behaviour you want.

GofBorg · November 19, 2012, 10:59pm

Thanks dd,

YOU has sorted out whatever was going on with the updates.

consused · November 20, 2012, 2:50am

Or was it the repo priority change that sorted it out? Did you try with apper after the priority change? I guess not.

GofBorg · November 21, 2012, 7:23pm

>> YOU has sorted out whatever was going on with the updates.
> Or was it the repo priority change that sorted it out? Did you try with
> apper after the priority change? I guess not.

No, sorry did not try that.