update from 11.4 to 12.1 stuck at last step

Hi
i had 11.4 on my vaio laptop and i went to update it to 12.1 using dvd. in update process, it installed & uninstalled everything needed and in next section, that is a terminal-like environment, the last thing that it prints is “shuting down DNS” (i think) and it sticks at this section. I’ve tried several times and it didn’t make a difference.
when i try to boot the installed OS from my hard disk, system boots up bu it can’t start x server and goes to terminal mode. when i type “startx” it says that x server can’t find nvidia package and it doesn’t start.

thanx for any idea :wink:

your subject says it is stuck at the last step, i wonder what is the
last step successfully completed in either of these two supported and
recommended methods of upgrading:

http://tinyurl.com/35p966c
http://tinyurl.com/6kvoflv

and, before beginning did you check your installation media this way:
http://tinyurl.com/3qde66h


DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

none of these methods I’ve used; i just inserted the dvd and selected installation, then upgrade. the disk is ok because we’ve used it on other systems.

thanx :wink:

On 12/21/2011 07:06 PM, sazary wrote:
> none of these methods I’ve used

you really should follow the directions as written…

so i don’t know what might have gone wrong…you could try these:

  1. at the first green screen during the boot press F5 and select to boot
    from systemV (systemD is the default–it is a new system and is causing
    some strange stuff on some machines…

if that doesn’t help, you might also try:

  1. (i do not have a lot of hope that this will work, but it might) go to

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_graphics_cards#1st_thing_to_try_.28nomodeset.29
and follow the instructions to use nomodeset as a boot option

if neither of those work, it might be best for you to backlevel to 11.4
and wait for 12.1 to smooth out . . .


DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

On 2011-12-21 19:06, sazary wrote:
>
> none of these methods I’ve used; i just inserted the dvd and selected
> installation, then upgrade. the disk is ok because we’ve used it on
> other systems.

That’s the method explained briefly in “15.1.3. Upgrading with YaST” of the
links DenverD supplied.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On 2011-12-21 17:06, sazary wrote:
> I’ve tried several times and it didn’t make a difference.
> when i try to boot the installed OS from my hard disk, system boots up
> bu it can’t start x server and goes to terminal mode. when i type
> “startx” it says that x server can’t find nvidia package and it doesn’t
> start.

Reinstall the video driver.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

if it is the case, in the document is written:

  1. Confirm the upgrade by clicking Start Update.

Once the basic upgrade installation is finished, YaST reboots the system. Finally, YaST updates the remaining software, if any and displays the release notes, if wanted.

I’ve clicked “Start Update”, and the next level is not explained in this document. it goes to terminal mode and starts a kernel and… does nothing.

i will try nomodeset, systemV, and reinstalling the driver, and report the results.

thanx :wink:

On 12/22/2011 10:56 AM, sazary wrote:
>it goes to terminal mode and starts a kernel and… does
> nothing.

as far as i remember it should not go into “terminal mode”, something
is wrong…it either doesn’t like your hardware or the install disk
is rotten…i know you wrote “the disk is ok because we’ve used it on
other systems” but that is an assumption which i’d ask you to check the
disk as i ask (because maybe the driver which is crucial to your
hardware (and not the other machines installed on) is garbled on your
install disk…throwing the whole shebang off the tracks.


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

Hi
I’ve checked the disk using the option in the boot menu and the media is just okay.
then i managed to change the driver that X is using to vesa, and added the nomodeset option to the boot options line to boot the system in graphical mode. none of these two (vesa, nomodeset) worked alone. and after boot, i’m trying to reinstall nvidia driver. i have some difficulties due to internet, and when i install it i will tell you the results.

after all, i can show you that terminal mode that it enters after update. i must excuse because i didn’t explain you the whole procedure, but now it is it:
i put the dvd in machine, restart it, selecting install from the menu, then update an existing opensuse. then it determines what it should do to update the system (updating packages, installing new ones and…) and will do it. after that a dialog box says that update is finished and it wants to restart the machine. when i click restart, the environment in the below picture shows up, and after this nothing happens, and even the cursor doesn’t blink.
that’s it all.
http://s3.kkloud.com/gett/static/scaled/8ztdHZB-0.g83wm0hpphr7wrk9.jpg
one another thing to note is that when i booted the system using vesa and nomodeset, and told zypper to check for updates, it said that there is nearly 300Mb updates to download. is it real? does 12.1 have this amount of update now? or is it because dvd did not complete the update procedure?

thanx a lot :wink:

one thing i forgot to say: no difference between systemV and systemD.

On 12/23/2011 12:16 PM, sazary wrote:
> is nearly 300Mb updates to download. is it real? does 12.1 have this
> amount of update now? or is it because dvd did not complete the update
> procedure?

i don’t know how many updates have been made so far…could be a lot!
or, maybe the dvd hasn’t completed…

so, this may not help at all…maybe it makes it worse, but i think
you are getting bitten by a bug which is blocking shutdown…i wonder,
if it gets to that dead stop can you press Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in as root
and issue this command


shutdown -r now

which should cause an orderly shutdown and reboot…which (i think)
should get you the restart the system wants…

if that doesn’t work there have been a rash of “failing to shutdown”
12.1 in the forums in the last month…i do not recall how that is
fixed…ah, i think there is something in the release notes about
it…maybe you could make that change before clicking restart…

sorry, i do not have the patience just now to do all the required
research. (flu)


DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

On 2011-12-23 13:37, DenverD wrote:
> but i think you are getting bitten by a bug which is blocking shutdown…

No, it is not that. It is attempting a fast reboot using kexec instead of a
full reboot. But it doesn’t work.

Doing a full reboot should suffice.

And yes, it is normal to have to do a lot of updates online later, it is
not because of a bad job by the dvd. The dvd does not contain all packages.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

HI everyone!
first, i want to say thanx to everyone helped on this issue, and even everyone who spent time to read these; special thanx go to @DenverD :wink:
after installing nvidia driver, i’m now able to boot my system normally. everything is okay, or it seems to be.
the concerning points are:

  • as i had the nvidia driver installed on my opensuse 11.4 before update, it sounds natural to expect updater to not to uninstall it! but it did. can i report it as a bug?
  • second is that it tried to fast reboot, but it crashed. i’ve tried shutdown command before, and it works.
  • third is that when it wants to boot, it prints several lines of error due to a problem with some network devices, although my network devices (eth0 & wlan0) both work normally; or they seem to.
  • the last concern is about the updates. although now i have Gnome3 & KDE 4.7 ( i hadn’t them before update) but i’m afraid of having update not complete. this is my zypper output:
sazary@linux-t1fs:~> sudo zypper up
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

The following package updates will NOT be installed:
  bundle-lang-gnome-extras-ar chromium chromium-desktop-kde 
  chromium-suid-helper clementine gparted libsidplay1 libsnapper1 libupnp6 
  libv8-3 

The following NEW packages are going to be installed:
  bundle-lang-gnome-extras-ca flash-player flash-player-gnome flash-player-kde4 
  gtk3-metatheme-sonar libbotan-1_10-0 libgladeui-1-11 libgladeui-1-devel 
  snapper snapper-zypp-plugin zypp-plugin-python 

The following package is going to be REMOVED:
  libgladeui-1_0-devel 

The following packages are going to be upgraded:
  aaa_base aaa_base-extras aalib aalib-devel amarok apache2 apache2-devel 
  apache2-doc apache2-example-pages apache2-prefork apache2-utils apper 
  at-spi-32bit at-spi-devel audiofile bind-libs bind-utils blas brasero 
  brasero-nautilus btrfsprogs bug-buddy-32bit compizconfig-settings-manager 
  cron cronie dhcp dhcp-client djvulibre-djview4 docbook-xsl-stylesheets 
  dolphin fam freetype2-devel ft2demos gbrainy gconf2-32bit gedit glibc 
  glibc-32bit glibc-devel glibc-info glibc-locale glibc-locale-32bit 
  gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-user-faces gnome-shell 
  gnome-shell-browser-plugin gnucash-docs gnuplot gob2 
  gstreamer-0_10-fluendo-mp3 gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly 
  gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly-lang gtk2-data gtk2-devel 
  gtk2-engine-murrine-32bit gtk2-engines-32bit gtk2-immodule-amharic 
  gtk2-immodule-inuktitut gtk2-immodule-thai gtk2-immodule-vietnamese 
  gtk2-metatheme-sonar gtk2-tools gtk2-tools-32bit imlib2 imlib2-devel 
  imlib2-loaders kdeartwork4-icons kdebase4-libkonq kdebase4-nsplugin 
  kdebase4-runtime-xine kdelibs3 kdelibs3-default-style kdepasswd kdesvn 
  kdevelop4 kdevelop4-lang kdialog keditbookmarks kfind kio_iso koffice2-karbon 
  konqueror konqueror-plugins konsole konversation konversation-lang krb5 
  krb5-32bit krb5-devel libart_lgpl_2-2-32bit libavahi-client3-32bit 
  libavahi-glib1-32bit libavc1394-devel libblkid1 libblkid1-32bit 
  libblkid-devel libbonobo-32bit libbotan-devel libbrasero-burn3-1 
  libbrasero-media3-1 libbrasero-utils3-1 libbtctl6 libbtctl-devel 
  libbtctl-lang libcairo2-32bit libcanberra0-32bit libcanberra-gtk0-32bit 
  libcanberra-gtk2-module-32bit libcddb2 libcolorblind0 libcolord1 libcroco 
  libcroco-devel libfluidsynth1 libfreebl3 libfreebl3-32bit libfreetype6 
  libfreetype6-32bit libgio-fam libglade-2_0-0-32bit libglade2-devel 
  libglade2-doc libgnome-control-center1 libgnomecups libgtk-2_0-0 
  libgtk-2_0-0-32bit libgtkglext-x11-1_0-0 libIDL-2-0-32bit libjasper1 
  libjasper1-32bit libjasper-devel libkonq5 libmm14 libmount1 libmsn0_3 
  libnm-glib4 libnm-glib-vpn1 libnm-gtk0 libnm-util2 libopencdk10 
  libopencdk-devel libpackagekit-glib2-14 libpackagekit-qt14 
  libpackagekit-qt2-2 libpango-1_0-0-32bit libpcsclite1 libpisync-devel 
  libpixman-1-0-32bit libplot2 libpurple libpurple-tcl libpyglib-gi-2_0-python0 
  libqt4 libqt4-devel libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql 
  libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-x11 libsmbclient0-32bit libsoftokn3 
  libsoftokn3-32bit libsvnqt6 libunique-devel libuuid1 libuuid1-32bit 
  libuuid-devel libvdpau-devel libvdpau_trace1 libvorbisfile3-32bit 
  libwmf-32bit libwx_baseu_xml-2_8-0-wxcontainer 
  libwx_gtk2u_aui-2_8-0-wxcontainer libxcrypt-32bit metatheme-sonar-common 
  MozillaFirefox MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE mozilla-js mozilla-nss 
  mozilla-nss-32bit mozilla-nss-certs mozilla-nss-certs-32bit mozilla-nss-devel 
  MozillaThunderbird myspell-persian NetworkManager NetworkManager-devel 
  NetworkManager-gnome NetworkManager-kde4-libs NetworkManager-openvpn-kde4 
  NetworkManager-pptp-kde4 NetworkManager-vpnc-kde4 nspluginwrapper okular 
  openobex-devel opera opera-gtk opera-kde4 orbit2-32bit PackageKit 
  PackageKit-browser-plugin PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin PackageKit-gtk3-module 
  PackageKit-gtk-module pango-tools-32bit papyon pcsc-lite perl-IO-Socket-SSL 
  plasma-theme-aya plasma-theme-oxygen plasmoid-folderview 
  plasmoid-networkmanagement plotutils PolicyKit-devel polkit-default-privs 
  polkit-kde-agent-1 postfix pullin-flash-player pvm python-bugbuddy 
  python-cupshelpers python-gobject python-gobject-cairo python-gtkglext 
  python-gtop python-metacity python-opengl python-rsvg qt3 qt-creator 
  qtcurve-gtk2-32bit rarian release-notes-openSUSE sonar-icon-theme splashy 
  splashy-branding-openSUSE SuSEfirewall2 swig tar-lang tellico tellico-lang 
  udev-configure-printer util-linux vim vim-base vim-data wpa_supplicant 
  wvstreams-devel xclip xulrunner yast2-kerberos-client yast2-ldap-client 

252 packages to upgrade, 11 new, 1 to remove.
Overall download size: 257.0 MiB. After the operation, additional 68.0 MiB will 
be used.
Continue? [y/n/?] (y): 

i think this volume of updates is unusual, even after a major release.

again, thanx :wink:

I don’t recommend the use of Apper
zypper is fine

I’d like to see your repos though

zypper lr -d

The old nvidia driver would be removed because it was for a different build. It’s not a bug.

You should only have 12.1 repos enabled and I prefer this update method
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Software%20Management/system_update.png

here you are:


# | Alias                  | Name                       | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                             | Service
--+------------------------+----------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1 | nvidia                 | nvidia                     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/12.1/                        |        
2 | openSUSE-12.1-12.1-1.4 | openSUSE-12.1-12.1-1.4     | Yes     | No      |   99     | yast2  | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7930H      |        
3 | repo-debug             | openSUSE-12.1-Debug        | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/  |        
4 | repo-debug-update      | openSUSE-12.1-Update-Debug | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.1/                 |        
5 | repo-non-oss           | openSUSE-12.1-Non-Oss      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/non-oss/    |        
6 | repo-oss               | openSUSE-12.1-Oss          | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/        |        
7 | repo-source            | openSUSE-12.1-Source       | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ |        
8 | repo-update            | openSUSE-12.1-Update       | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.1/                       |        

OK

Now look at this
http://forums.opensuse.org/content/61-re-multi-media-restricted-format-installation-guide.html

Run it. Be sure to do the switch on Packman as shown in the guide.

Then do the system wide update as in the previous image.
Then do that once a week or so.

sorry but why installing restricted codecs should solve my problem?!

Just make clear exactly what your problem is now?

On 2011-12-23 16:26, sazary wrote:
> i think this volume of updates is unusual, even after a major release.

No, it is not. It is a known bug of the DVD upgrade method, that not all
packages are upgraded. It misses all those packages you have that are not
in the DVD, plus all those that were upgraded/updated since release.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)