Hi,
I am running suse 11.1 64 on a Dell Laptop M6400.
Gnome / Compiz
Irregularly (about every 5-10 minutes), my applications windows become grey and unresponsive. This usually last
about 30 seconds to just over a minute. Then the app return to a “usable” state.
It is driving me crazy. and make this computer almost unusable for me.
The applications I am frequently using are Netbeans, Eclipse, Firefox, Opera and Pidgin.
Anybody is experiencing unresponsive apps from time to time?
Best,
Firefox does have a chronic habit of doing this.
Might be an idea to open a terminal, run ‘top’, then leave it running. Next time it slows down, alt-tab to the terminal, and see if something is hogging your cpu or memory.
ETA: Oh, and I forgot to say; if beagle is installed, that could well be the culprit - try uninstalling it, see what that does.
I just performed a fresh of 11.1 with all the current updates and Nvidia drivers. 3d, rotating cube, wobbly windows, etc., all working. Then I open a couple of programs, wave my mouse across the upper right corner, my open windows gather for me to select from, and my graphics freeze. Not until I ssh from another box and kill compiz does the freeze come to an end. I have wanted to switch to openSuSE for while now because Fedora has become so unstable and unrefined. This lockup with compiz has kept me from switching. I have an Nvidia 8500GT card, Intel chipset with quad core Core 2 CPU. I just don’t get why this happens, and the HOW-TO’s aren’t cutting it for me.
try:
-turn off or uninstall beagle, if that doesn’t help then [ITDHT]
-turn off desktop effects, ITDHT:
-turn off compiz, ITDHT:
-upgrade to KDE4.3, ITDHT:
-install and use KDE3, ITDHT:
-install and use GNOME, ITDHT:
-run memtest at least 24 hours, ITDHT:
-search the following for “warning” or “error” clues:
–/var/log/Xorg.0.log
–/var/log/kdm.log
–/var/log/messages
–/var/log/warn
–
brassy
Turn off desktop effects? Really? This is considered a solution? My whole desire is to have desktop effects. My apologies for not making it clear that I want the rotating cube and wobbly windows and all of that. Unfortunately, the most recent versions of openSuSE ALWAYS lock up when I motion to the upper right corner to show all my open windows. I need that problem solved OR I CAN’T USE openSuSE!
tfruth wrote:
> Turn off desktop effects? Really? This is considered a solution?
no, it is one step in a process of trying to determine what the
problem actually is!
on the other hand, until something in the driver, graphics engine, or
code base changes you may have no choice other than to choose
between wobbly windows/etc OR a usable system on 11.1
maybe 11.2 will be better, but not likely if folks like you don’t go
to the trouble of pinning down the actual problem, and THEN filing a
bug report…and, instead just hop to another distro seeking instant
gratification…
–
brassy
It would help if you told us what video card you have, and which driver you are using.
I seem to remember there where a few problems with Intel drivers recently, and if your video is ATI you might as well forget about 3d as AMD sadly haven’t put much effort into their drivers.
Nvidia 8500GT with the latest Nvidia driver (because, as much as the purists hate the ‘proprietary’ Nvidia driver, it’s the best way to get maximum performance out of games, 3D desktop, Google Earth, high-def content, etc.
You can’t debug a system that is unusable. Generally I have found Novell’s products to be superior to Microsoft and RedHat, but the eyecandy is a big deal. I’ve already gone back to Fedora 11, much as I loathe its issues, the system doesn’t become totally unusable every time I pass the mouse over the upper right hand corner of the screen.
I’ve been using Linux for eleven years and the last two or three seem to have been the worst. The quality control is in the toilet. Stability seems to mean nothing.
The 3D desktop effects should not be included if they are so **** poor in quality. Every major distro is having this problem, not just openSuSE.
> I’ve been using Linux for eleven years and the last two or three seem
> to have been the worst. The quality control is in the toilet.
> Stability seems to mean nothing.
i agree completely, the developers quest has become Eye Candy, at the
expense of usability, stability, dependability…
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brassy
Hmm, odd. It should work ok.
Did you compile the driver from the Nvidia website, or use the one from the suse nvidia repo?
Not that it should make much difference, they both (from my experience) work well with desktop effects.
My video is a 8400m gs, and works perfectly, not that that helps you!
Did you try using kwin instead of compiz? Much better in my opinion, it does everything that compiz can do, but it’s a built in part of KDE4.
Plus you might want to check your video card, mainboard, and power supply for possible faults.
It could be something simple like a clogged fan, or blown capacitor (although I’ve never seen an Nvidia card with a blown cap, but plenty of ATIs!).
Just wondering if the extra power draw is placing an abnormal load on something in your system, I might be barking up the wrong tree though, I usually am :(.
Thanks for helping me.
I have a Dell M6400 with a QuadroFX 3700M, 12Gb Ram, dual X9100@3.06Ghz
500GB Raid 1. Using Gnome. It’s my coding laptop 
I am using it mostly for coding with Eclipse and Netbeans.
I do not have beagle installed, When my computer freeze I don’t see anything stange with ‘top’ and I am monitoring the cpu, ram, disk/swapp, and network at all time. Doesn’t seem to show anything interesting whe the apps lock. It is very frustrating since it interrupt my work almost evey 10-15 minutes.
I am using compiz and Desktop effects. I also have a 8 years old dell with a gforce 9600, 4g ram. No problems. I only get the locks on the M6400.
Best
alex suse 10 wrote:
>
> Thanks for helping me.
>
> I have a Dell M6400 with a QuadroFX 3700M, 12Gb Ram, dual X9100@3.06Ghz
> 500GB Raid 1. Using Gnome. It’s my coding laptop
>
> I am using it mostly for coding with Eclipse and Netbeans.
>
> I do not have beagle installed, When my computer freeze I don’t see
> anything stange with ‘top’ and I am monitoring the cpu, ram, disk/swapp,
> and network at all time. Doesn’t seem to show anything interesting whe
> the apps lock. It is very frustrating since it interrupt my work almost
> evey 10-15 minutes.
>
> I am using compiz and Desktop effects. I also have a 8 years old dell
> with a gforce 9600, 4g ram. No problems. I only get the locks on the
> M6400.
Maybe it’s just me, but the Acrobat Reader (acroread) will bite me every so
often - starts a load then hangs eating as much CPU as it can get looking
like a total hang. Sometimes it will work its’ way out of the mess but
usually I have to kill it. Some cases I wind up having to use Ctl-Alt-F1
to get to a command line just to nuke it. You might try that and running
top next time you get what seems to be a hang - just be patient and you
will probably get there eventually. If you can identify a hung program
eating the CPU and killing that program gets you back on track, you’ve
found the culprit. I’ve also seen Java apps hogging the CPU until it looks
like a hang.
–
Will Honea
Maybe see if
metacity --replace &
in a terminal fixes it? Or if you need compositing for a dock or some such
metacity --replace --composite &
Hi,
After install an OpenSuse 11.1, I really loved it, but I experienced a problems with comipz.
Whell, at Compiz Fusion - openSUSE I re-intall it and works (except zoom, still turned off)
Yeah, that’s the page I used to configure my initial Compiz setup.
I Disabled desktop effects and switched to metacity.
Still freeze sometimes but less frequently, not sure it’s related to
compiz but maybe compiz make it worst for some reasons?
(Not that it make any sense)
Whenever I use Firefox, Opera or Konqueror,
my laptop freeze like every 2 minutes or almost…
unusable. I can’t even ctrl-alt-f1. Sometimes even the mouse freeze.
Maybe I should try to work for a whole day disabling network interfaces and not using any web or else.
I noticed that I am “loosing” connection to my wifi from time to time. not sure it’s related.
A
The wireless might the cause of the problem.
Have you tried disabling it to see if that works any better?
Which wireless card do you have?
You can find the model by opening a terminal and typing lspci, or if it is a USB adapter -* lsusb*.
It should be listed there somewhere.
It could also be an acpi problem, I’m no expert so I can’t give much advice there other than adding noacpi to the end of your boot line (just start typing at the grub boot menu I believe, or press e to edit.
I have the exactly same behaviour. I just installed OpenSuSE 11.1 x64 on my wife’s HP Pavilion DV3610. It has a Nvidia 9300M, Intel chipset and a Core2Duo CPU.
After the install I updated the system to the most recent packages, including the 2.6.27.25 kernel. I then tried to install the nvidia driver with 1-click, unfortunately without success. Instead I downloaded the latest nvidia driver (185.18.31) from their website and compiled the kernel module myself. Now the nvidia driver works, but I have the same lockups as described above when using Compiz.
Before Ubuntu was used on the same computer. In that installation compiz worked like a charm together with the nvidia driver.
Any suggestions on what to do? My wife (and myself) really like OpenSuSE and would love to get it working. But without desktop effects, we’d probably moves back to Ubuntu.
Thanks in advance,
Tomas Tengnér