unable to install opensuse 11.2 only in dell vostro 260s desktop. once the installation starts, we select ‘install’ option from the main menu. immediately an error message shows that ’ no repository found’ . now if we select 'eject cd ’ from the menu there will not be any response. the communication to the sata dvd drive is stopped. my office has got 3 brand new same dell desktop & i tried in all, but the result is same. all these systems are dualcore with 2gb ram & 500gb hdd. with the very same dvd i tried to install in other desktop , which is same configuration but not a branded pc whose mother board is intel 41 wv series, i could install opensuse 11.2 successfully and is working fine. i contacted dell customer care & they told me that they don’t have a solution for this. so please help me to overcome this crisis.
On 2012-07-20 19:46, mpsreekanth wrote:
>
> unable to install opensuse 11.2 only in dell vostro 260s desktop.
11.2 is obsolete, you should not attempt to install it.
Or do you mean 12.2? That version is in development, not released, and you have to ask in the
beta forum.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
This cleary is true.
E.g. openSUSE 11.4 would be a much better choice.
On the other hand:
That shouldn’t even happen with a valid openSUSE 11.2 installer DVD or CD.
But did you ever run ‘check installation media’ from the first menu after boot,
i.e. the menu from which you selected ‘install’ ?
Look a bit further down below in this menu, and you’ll find this entry.
Good luck
Mike
i did tried that also and the result is same.
what i think is that it cannot recognize a SATA DVDRW once it starts installation. so i tried installing thru a USB external dvdrw. that time it did not show that error and installation went further steps and got a new error that ’ no hard disk drive installed’. here again the problem is a SATA HDD. the very same hdd i removed and connected to the intel wv series mother board and installed open suselinux 11.2 successfully. so i think the problem is a communication gap between motherboard’s architecture and the suselinux, this is only my findings, i dont know whether i am right.
What are the BIOS settings?
On 07/21/2012 03:56 PM, gogalthorp wrote:
> What are the BIOS settings?
it really makes no difference what the BIOS is, or how many different
machines he tries to install on…
he should NOT be trying to install openSUSE 11.2
because it is no longer supported and therefore all of the repos
required for the install are no longer available on the net…and it is
therefore the system says:
‘no repository found’
end of story!
mpsreekanth, please install openSUSE 11.4 or 12.1
both of those are currently supported and their repos are available,
and once installed and updated will be far more secure than the 11.2 on
your DVD which has not been security patched since November 2009!!!
support for 11.4 will end in November or December of this year… while
12.1 support sometime in 2013/14
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dd
if that is the reason then why it is getting installed in all other machines except dell 260s with the very same dvd copy that i tried.
On 07/21/2012 07:46 PM, mpsreekanth wrote:
>
> if that is the reason then why it is getting installed in all other
> machines except dell 260s with the very same dvd copy that i tried.
>
>
because you can do a DVD only install…but that will not ever get the
updates…so you have a machine with many many known potential
exploits…and, i will not (maybe others will) help you install another
one…
i do not support past end-of-life, un-supported and known insecure
versions of openSUSE…
doing so just gives the world too many opportunities to say: I kracked
an openSUSE today!
no thank you…install 11.4 or 12.1 and i will do everything i can to
help you install on “dell vostro 260s desktop” though i have zero idea
if that is possible… i just looked it up on the Dell site and see no
mention of it being suitable for any operating system other than
“Genuine Windows® 7 Professional”
but, i would encourage you to first try 11.4 or 12.1, just download the
Live CD (its small by today’s standards) and see if it will boot up and
run in a live session…if so, boot again and select install…
one word of caution: carefully select which desktop you want to try…do
you know the differences between the various desktops?
fetch the latest here: http://software.opensuse.org/
and 11.4 here: http://software.opensuse.org/114/en
then, if unsuccessful try any other Linux distro currently supported
with security patches…there are hundreds of such available:
http://distrowatch.com/
and if those machines only run Win7, then load it…(if you didn’t want
Win, next time make sure the office purchaser buys a product known to
work with Linux…Dell makes lots of them…
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dd
On 2012-07-21 19:46, mpsreekanth wrote:
>
> if that is the reason then why it is getting installed in all other
> machines except dell 260s with the very same dvd copy that i tried.
Who knows? It is an obsolete version. Try with a current version and then we’ll see.
Typically that machine would have a problem accessing the dvd drive.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
Typically that machine would have a problem accessing the dvd drive.
Which may be due to a BIOS setting.
On 07/21/2012 10:36 PM, gogalthorp wrote:
> Which may be due to a BIOS setting.
i understand your point…do you understand mine?
dd
in case it is needed, ps:
Since 11.2 is both insecure and unsupported: Why give clues/advice on
how to get around minor problems and install anyway. (And, then
operate an unpatched system for how many years?)
otoh, if the OP is sufficiently knowledgeable in things Linux and can
work out the problems without assistance, there might be a chance that
same person will both know how to secure the system and will invest
the (relatively LARGE amount of) time and effort to do so.
Consider: What would be required to just patch the publically
documented/known vulnerabilities in an openSUSE 11.2 frozen to the
initial release date, with zero patches applied {since the update repo
is unavailable during install, or after}? And, then start going through
all the updates required just to get the kernel patched! (or install a
new kernel–either case one must then rebuild all the drivers and
modules and) and, then all the internet applications would need to be
updated/re-built…and uncountable libs replaced before any of the
proceeding could even begin. . .
That is FAR FAR more work than just installing a supported version…
which this OP has been encouraged to do five times, already.
And since the OP has resisted taking the easy path, is there any
logical hope that once installed s/he will then do the work to secure
the system before connecting it to a public network teeming with script
kiddies/criminals seeking to install a rootkit and subvert??
So, why help the install knowing there is an extremely high likelyhood
the system won’t get patched. And the same goes for all versions out of
support and not easily patchable: if the admin knows how to get
around, it is almost likely they know how to effectively
patch/secure–and they won’t be asking here why the repo can’t be
contacted or the DVD can’t be seen by the system…
ymmv
Well this appears to be a commercial setting since the OP said he had 4 machines all the same. He/she may a good reason to use 11.2. But then again the same problem may or may not appear with a more current version but again may be dependent on BIOS setting. I agree that if practicable 11.4 or 12.1 should be used here but they may have an app that is certified only under 11.2. We don’t know they did not say.
On 07/22/2012 04:56 PM, gogalthorp wrote:
> they may have an app that is
> certified only under 11.2.
and that is not an openSUSE problem either…it is another purchase
problem…
of course, if you want to support 11.2, you sure may…i have zero
authority here to tell you (or anyone else) not to…
in fact there is money to be made helping folks who purchased commercial
software which is “certified only under 11.2” because they need LOTS of
help if they are going to continue to run that application in 11.2 and
not get cracked…(if they face the net, browse the net, use Flash on
the net, etc etc etc)…
maybe you want to build a service organization and provide paid support
for 11.3 and all older…
on the other hand, (and i admit i JUST remembered the
following–apologies!) 11.2 is supported by Project Evergreen, but i
don’t think they provide the complete set of repos to allow a fresh
install at this time…i think that project supports systems in place
at end of life…but, i could be wrong, and if so there may be support
for bringing new 11.2 to life AND get them patched up and safe…their
contact info is here: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen
i can’t help more with Evergreen (i can barely spell it…but there may
be some experts around, who use 11.2 Evergreen daily and can solve the
OP’s problems, quickly! that would be a very good thing…wish i had
thought of it earlier!!
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dd
i tried opensuse12.1 and installed successfully.
thanks to all.
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:16:32 GMT, dd@home.dk wrote:
>On 07/21/2012 03:56 PM, gogalthorp wrote:
>> What are the BIOS settings?
>
>it really makes no difference what the BIOS is, or how many different
>machines he tries to install on…
>
>he should NOT be trying to install openSUSE 11.2
>
>because it is no longer supported and therefore all of the repos
>required for the install are no longer available on the net…and it is
>therefore the system says:
>
>‘no repository found’
>
>end of story!
>
>mpsreekanth, please install openSUSE 11.4 or 12.1
>
>both of those are currently supported and their repos are available,
>and once installed and updated will be far more secure than the 11.2 on
>your DVD which has not been security patched since November 2009!!!
>
>support for 11.4 will end in November or December of this year… while
>12.1 support sometime in 2013/14
Actually DD the repos are still there for 11.1, 11.2, and 11.3. But they
are increasingly out of date and have not been maintained. Packman for
11.1 and 11.2 is getting hard to find. I certainly would be thoughtful
about connecting such a machine to the Internet without really tight
firewall settings.
?-)
On 07/25/2012 04:44 AM, josephkk wrote:
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> Actually DD the repos are still there for 11.1, 11.2, and 11.3. But they
> are increasingly out of date and have not been maintained. Packman for
> 11.1 and 11.2 is getting hard to find. I certainly would be thoughtful
> about connecting such a machine to the Internet without really tight
> firewall settings.
WOW! i am amazed to find that (for example)
http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/rpm/i586/ still exists AND is
populated!!
i can only guess that i “read somewhere” that the repos were removed…
well, i am sure i have read more than one irate rant on how stupid it
is to remove old repos…
wth is up with that!?
so, to “mpsreekanth” sorry i gave you bad info, i have no idea why
installing 11.2 failed…
but, i AM happy it did fail, because i see you have now installed 12.1,
good for you!!
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dd
On 2012-07-25 09:13, dd@home.dk wrote:
> WOW! i am amazed to find that (for example) http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/rpm/i586/
> still exists AND is populated!!
Some were retained on request from the evergreen project.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 07/26/2012 03:08 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Some were retained on request from the evergreen project.
i see…
apparently i was under the miss-impression that Evergreen was to
extend the life of existing install’s when the drop dead date was
reached…
instead it seems to allow initial install (birth?) far past the
end-of-life date, and then extend that new life…
maybe it should be renamed Evergreen/Zombie Project
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dd
On 2012-07-26 08:24, dd@home.dk wrote:
> On 07/26/2012 03:08 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> Some were retained on request from the evergreen project.
>
> i see…
>
> apparently i was under the miss-impression that Evergreen was to extend the life of
> existing install’s when the drop dead date was reached…
Yep
But you can also install it - suppose you have to restore a server that had a disk crash.
> instead it seems to allow initial install (birth?) far past the end-of-life date, and then
> extend that new life…
You have to keep the old repos, and add a new update one. They maintain 11.1, 11.2 and 11.4
(well, not yet). There is no reason for the 11.3 repos to be kept, AFAIK.
>
> maybe it should be renamed Evergreen/Zombie Project
X’-)
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 07/26/2012 11:38 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> suppose you have to restore a server that had a disk crash.
just like always: pull from the shelf and mount the backup tape, then
restore…
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dd