I am running the live milestone 2 disk and it is refusing to connect with wireless or ethernet using the crappy NETWORK MANAGER as downloaded. I had to do the following:
UNINSTALL network manager
uninstall apper
use ifup to make the ethernet connect and then use zypper to get updates.
I thought things were getting better with networking with Linux but clearly I was badly mistaken. Why, after a couple of years of users being so unhappy or unable to surf the web with network manager interfering with them is this **** program still here?
I noticed that most of the people in these forums do remove apper after installing KDE
Instead of removing network manager isn’t it better if you went to YaST ==>NetworkSettings ==>Global Options Tab and switched to ifup ?
On 01/14/2013 06:16 AM, zxr250cc wrote:
> Why, after a couple of years of users
> being so unhappy or unable to surf the web with network manager
> interfering with them is this **** program still here?
thanks for the input, but to answer your question above: because it
works perfectly for me and many many many others!!
if it does not work for you then log a bug so it can be fixed for your
hardware…otherwise it won’t get fixed!
note: reporting a failure here in this forum is NOT logging a bug, you
do that at http://tinyurl.com/nzhq7j and log it against “factory”
First, I have been using SUSE since 6.0… Could someone remove newcomer from this header? I had an account previously from 2004 but did not use for so long that I forgot the log in details…
This is related to LIVE DISK use, not an install from it. LIVE…
Now, the above post was from a LENOVO G570 and it refused to surf until Network Manager was deleted. Then ifup made the system work. I tried booting the laptop with the disk and setting up the wifi. I could see access points but not connect to them, no matter what I tried. I also tried rebooting the laptop with an ethernet connection and that also refused to surf with Network Manager installed. It worked fine after I deleted NM and used ifup manually.
Each generation of new Linux versions has a problem of some sort but NM seems to be a problem everytime for the last two years or so for many distributions, not just SUSE. I am posting this from a Think Pad X-31 and I again had to delete NM to get it to set up the wifi and surf. I think NM is seriously flawed in some fashion as it will not even let an ethernet card it sees and sets up surf the web in the Lenovo mentioned earlier. I am using the Intel Calexico 2 wifi card with this X-31 after removing NM.
Historically, SUSE has been one of the better distributions at having a Live Disk surf without doing much other than offering the password for the network for wifi. Not since NM arrived in force though. Why is this?
As for APPER it is IRRITATING as a program. It runs and interferes with using YAST to do updates. When you try to kill it you find that you can’t. I like to do checks manually anyway so I uninstall APPER to rid the system of the irritation. If APPER had a question asking ‘do you want me to run?’ then it would be less irritating. Being ON by DEFAULT makes me choose to remove it to keep from having to work with it.
> As for APPER it is IRRITATING as a program. It runs and intereres with
> using YAST to do updates. When you try to kill it you find that you
> can’t.
I just use System Monitor to kill PackageKit. Just highlight it and
click “kill process.” Then I remove it and Apper.
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Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.9.97; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
As far as removing APPER is concerned no intermediate steps are required. Open YAST and remove it with SOFTWARE MANAGEMENT function. Same for NM. Log out, log in and all is well.
I have run the live disk on a Think Pad X-31 (ATI video and Intel networking chips) and a Lenovo G570 (Intel video and Atheros networking chips) successfully and it failed to set up properly with a live working desktop in a T-23 Think Pad. It seems the Savage Super 9 video driver is not working right for the x-server. I have an upper half screen working with a visual display and the lower half screen has alternate black and green vertical bars. Nothing on the screen responds to a mouse. I had to reboot the laptop by holding down the power button to kill it and then restart after that.
In almost all previous versions of SUSE I have used the network manager did not cause trouble. It certainly has this time for me though.
