lol we gotta start all over again
remember me with the endless questions? LOL
yeah I deleted opensuse and installed ubuntu instead
same basic concept right? is yast still available? what about konsole? same commands? different? well, i’ll check back in, let’s keep the title thread as what is is for now, feel free to ask me something or give some pointers
ok first thing
su - still logs in as root
i’ll try the /sbin/shutdown -r -F now or /sbin/shutdown -s -F now command in a moment and see how that goes
that last one didn’t work
i couldn’t find this one either:
$ sudo shutdown -h now
weird why that wouldn’t work
but that last one I JUST posted says that i wasnt logged in as root. su - doesn’t work huh? have to figure that one out…
cool
What are you actually after? Its just having looked at your posting history it seems you want windows, you’re going to find this a lot easier if this isn’t the case.
Linux isn’t a replacement for windows it is an alternative so to expect it to be like windows regardless of distro will be pointless.
I’m guessing you thought **** this isn’t working went for Ubuntu and that isn’t doing it for you either…
My tuppence stick the windows cd/dvd in the drive and be happy. Should you wish to learn an alternative OS in the future then come back when you’re ready to accept the alternatives and no longer expect it to work just like windows it just doesn’t it is an alternative.
As for difference meh you like or you don’t it comes down to what you as a user can or can’t deal with regardless of distro/os, all have there faults and strengths.
geez, if you read the thread, you can see I’m actually asking a question, I have linux AND windows installed on here, getting rid of opensuse wasn’t just liking it or not, I just decided this was a better choice because the opensuse I had was acting real buggy
I'm just trying to figure out some key differences, and to be honest I have windows on here also, but I try out diffreent things, I hate windows. and to be honest, sometimes I hate linux, but opensuse just seemed like the better choice, it's not like I'm some old lady sitting around trying to figure out what rug I like, this just worked out better, the opensuse I had was installed from a live cd anyway, so I was having grub loader issues, someone mentioned ubuntu was more user freindly
hope that explains it:sarcastic:
ok sudo halt seems to work, I’ll have to remember that
Well you’ve tried as for differences not many really.
Package versions, package format,security policies, config management or not, boot/init management, community package handling, packages included or not, source compile management etc…
But these apply across all distros, not just the 2 you’ve mentioned.
At the end of the day all linuxes can potentially be made the same beyond the boot and package management, any package in xyz distro can be installed in abc.
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 15:16 +0000, imachavel wrote:
> lol we gotta start all over again
>
> remember me with the endless questions? LOL
>
>
> yeah I deleted opensuse and installed ubuntu instead
>
> same basic concept right?
yes and no.
> is yast still available?
yes and no. While yast is available as an option, Ubuntu isn’t really
designed with yast in mind… so it’s probably useless.
> what about konsole?
yes… but Ubuntu by default is Gnome centric. But certainly, you CAN
run konsole even with a Gnome desktop.
> same commands? different?
yes and no. There are probably 100’s (yes 100’s) of differences between
Ubuntu and openSUSE command wise. In come cases it’s just version level
differences, but in quite a few cases, it’s an entirely different source
code base for a particular command. And obviously, there are tools that
are present on one and not the other.
> well, i’ll check back in, let’s keep the title
> thread as what is is for now, feel free to ask me something or give some
> pointers
I’m REALLY not sure of the point of this. At the end of the day, I bet
I could list over 1000 critical key differences that might actually
matter… but matter to who?? And why?
The differences do NOT matter to most. But there are differences.
There is NO reward for compiling such a list and it’s out of date the
minute that it is created and updating such a list could be a fulltime
job.
Again, for the majority of users, they won’t see that much of a
difference. For a few of us, the differences are major… IMHO, there’s
no need to produce the list for that “few”… we don’t need a list.
well that’s awesome, thanks for the help
I want to know though, I thought basically all networking services were used in yast, like you could telnet into a novell server through yast
without yast, is this still very possible? Thanks
Yet Another System Tool really not sure what you mean by networking services.
Yast is a configuration and package management tool(Apologies afaik though open source I’m not aware of another distro that has ported it) I believe Mandriva has a similar central management tool but don’t think it has a ncurses version. It does have a ncurses(CLI) version meaning you can ssh in to the system and work with it. But you have other ways i.e if you had a webserver running, webmin can give you similar functionality. Webmin
And if you think webmin is difficult to install and configure(which is not BTW), you have always a super choice/option called SSH.
For me the main difference is that Bunutu uses Gnome and openSuse KDE. I don#t drink coffee and don’t like Gnome so that’s why i don’t run Ubuntu 
Apart from that openSuse is the best KDE distro in town.
I’m moving this thread to General-Chit-Chat. There’s no question for help, this is going to be another 1 vs. 2 debate. Have fun, respect eachother.
On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 15:36 +0000, Knurpht wrote:
> I’m moving this thread to General-Chit-Chat. There’s no question for
> help, this is going to be another 1 vs. 2 debate. Have fun, respect
> eachother.
>
>
Thank you.
First difference…
I can say the two work the same, the commands are similar but Ubuntu uses sudo and opensuse uses su for administration.
Ubuntu is also gnome centric, and overall its possibly the best Gnome destop out there (I even like it more then Fedora)
It can run the same apps, and in the end linux is linux.
But Ubuntu does have some advantages over openSUSE, it has some tools to help you set up proprietary ati/nvidia drivers , it also has slightly better wireless support then openSUSE in my experience.
I was impressed one time when I was installing Ubuntu for a client wishing the educational package for his son. I installed 9.04 off the CD and when I finished a message popped up asking for the wireless password. I gave it and with no further ado was on the net.
That was a surprise (because of my experience with openSUSE, where wireless is more convoluted).
[for the faithful who are rushing to arms: yes I do prefer openSUSE to Ubuntu]
Main differences:
Ubuntu - where nothing grows except the bubble in the heads of the users.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4348/ubuntupic1.jpg
openSUSE - lush green hills and thriving ecosystem.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8919/susepic1.jpg
Questions?
LOL 
Had a good laugh, so it was not entirely useless.
Heavy clouds on the sky for both?
You can use both su and sudo on openSuse. IF you use su then you stay in the administrator mode after you have executed the particular command. If you use sudo then it execute the particular command and after that goes back to user mode. Example: sudo zypper dup.
I personally see Mint as the best Gnome distro out there even though it’s based on Ubuntu. It’s a lot more polished and refined than Ubuntu.
OpenSuse also have advantages over Ubuntu. The one-click-install and Yast are two imo.