Out of all the linux distors to see a release this year I feel that Ubuntu Lucid Lynx has a lot going on for it.
Even though I still think dropping the gimp was foolish Lucid seems to be something worth using.
Ipod support is there, it has a lot of video card support out of the box (several users have praised that most now legacy ATI cards work as they should)
I can also expect for most laptop users wireless will probably be a snap.
I have tested the alphas and the betas on others computers and I have heard nothing but praise.
Indeed Lucid seems to make up for the last 2 Ubuntu releases, even at beta it has surpassed both jaunty and karmic in both speed and stability.
From personal experience testing the milestones of openSUSE, it looks like Ubuntu might have me back for some time because my monitor is simply not clicking with it… maybe I will try it again soon though as I want a backup distro.
Lucid looks great, feels great and boots faster then you blink your eye.
I have not given up on opensuse though and might dual boot on my main machine with it, I already have a windows/ubuntu/opensuse triple boot on another computer and just ubuntu on my test computer (she really cant do much, very old computer that can handle new versions of ubuntu yes but its slow as heck even with lxde.)
But it seems like Lucid is a speed demon, not only does it boot fast, but apps load fast, the file manager is fast, the internet is fast… heck my firefox with all its tabs and add ons takes a second to load.
No other distro can race it, I have tested all the others and well lucid beats them all in a heartbeat.
I am not saying this is going to be true for everyone, and I am more then sure there are going to be some things that openSUSE will do better with 11.3 but I got to give Lucid its big score points.
Heck memory management seems better in Lucid, in Karmic and openSUSE 11.2 I was running at near 40% memory with firefox, Lucid runs it at a mere 32%, my CPU scaling is flat and even in Lucid wile in Karmic and openSUSE 11.3 my CPU was at max a good percent of the time.
Running with 2GB of memory, and with a intel P4HT processor I was running well with both Karmic and openSUSE 11.2 but ran like a battleship, Lucid runs like a submarine.
The Ubuntu team did one heck of a job here, and it could be the wake up call everyone needs to pay attention to linux.
I’m testing it.
It sure is sweet. But I’ll not be leaving openSUSE. Though, as you say, it certainly sets a high standard.
I thought this was linux. I thought this was open source. If ubuntu has something good, why don’t we just steal it?
Uhhh… I mean incorporate it, like ATI drivers and wireless drivers etc.
Indeed it does, sure I think that maybe another distro might surpass it in looks in the near future, but looks are not everything.
Though if Ubuntu Lucid is this good, linux mint might be another one to look at.
I would certainly like to see a blue variant of the ambience/radience theme
I have given Mint a fair run recently and I must say it works really well. Ideal for a windows migrant.
The Software Centre is nice in Lucid.
Interestingly:
Though I am using aptitude and bleeding edge repos, Lucid has never wavered.
One thing that is really nice in Ub* is apps like Google earth work without question. And stick a flash drive in, it mounts and you can right click format as FAT32, easy as that.
I’m running Ubuntu 10.04 beta (now RC) alongside SUSE 11.2 in a dualboot and, although I like Lucid, I’m still not convinced. The speed increases (especially boot speed) are from upstream, and will I expect be found in OS 11.3 too. The themes are an improvement but then themes can easily be changed so I never judge a distro on appearance.
It’s still Gnome though, with all its clunkiness, and while I am comtemplating a return to Gnome to be able to use dual monitors (a total disaster in KDE4), ten minutes of actual Gnome usage makes me all nostalgic for KDE. Customizing Ubuntu is a (Gnome) nightmare: what’s simple in KDE4 becomes a hackfest of obscure gnome-conf or Compiz hacks. And don’t get me going on Compiz…
I’m unsure. The KDE vs Gnome wars are one thing. Actual distro-specific improvements another. I’, just not sure whether Lucid Lynx actaulally offers anything terribly new that isn’t pinched from Fedora (Plymouth) or more than skin-deep (that terrible “Indicator” applet, for instance)
Gnome 3 (not in Lucid) may change the game, of course, but for now KDE has Gnome struggling to keep up. If only it wasn’t for proper dual-monitor support. And then there are the huge Debian repos, and Ubuntu PPAs… I remain torn between distros and DEs but expect that 11.3 will have all the benefits of Lucid, and if I do decide to go Gnome for dual-monitor reasons, it will probably still be openSUSE…
Promoting ubuntu in another distro’s forum is great for canonical. I bet they love guys like you, free promotion targeted at a linux audience.
Priceless. >:)
Yeh but customizing ubuntu becomes much easier with ubuntu tweak, I can say its probably the best third party app for ubuntu
Heard much the same hype before Karmic was released. It turned out to be a steaming pile of poo on my machine. OpenSUSE works perfectly. I’ve no desire to look at anything else. 
Did you try the latest release candidate?
Or just played with one of the alpha’s/betas?
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 03:26 +0000, TaraIkeda wrote:
> Out of all the linux distors to see a release this year I feel that
> Ubuntu Lucid Lynx has a lot going on for it.
Ok… This is like saying McDonald’s new and improved Big Mac
will supplant all hamburgers and become the hamburger standard.
Can this get moved to soapbox? The premise is ridiculous…
I mean, if I PROVE to you where the Ubuntu model FAILS… will
you drop it? No… like an iPad groupie it doesn’t matter if
it stinks… you’re in love…
Can we create Rose Colored Glasses Linux? Maybe that will become
the true standard…
> …snip…
> Lucid runs like a submarine.
Maybe I should have said “sinks” instead of “stinks”???
> The Ubuntu team did one heck of a job here, and it could be the wake
> up call everyone needs to pay attention to linux.
Ubuntu has some things going for it and has a LOT of things going
against it as well. No silver bullet… sorry…
I don’t mind a objective analysis of the pros and cons of Ubuntu…
obviously everyone needs to try them all out and make up their own
minds. I have friends that use Ubuntu all the time… others that
switched when the Ubuntu model fails for them… and ditto for the
other distro choices out there.
I tried installing lucid lynx on this laptop but it would go. Other noted situations are the over heating of the laptop which was present with 9.10.
10.04 alpha installed, beta 1 or 2 didn’t.
Needless to say I gave up on Ubuntu for stability.
11.2 has been very stable on this laptop without the overheating.
What premise??
TaraIkeda has simply posted an opinion he/she has on Ubuntu 10.04, emphasis on “I feel” hence clearly an opinion.
I also can’t any similarity between your hamburger statement and TaraIkeda’s opinion.
Maybe you are eating too many??
Back on topic,
I am also very keen to try out 10.04
No I am recognizing that there is another linux distro out there that is doing one heck of a job of making itself known, with Lucid it seems that Ubuntu might indeed get some mainstream attention and what is good for Ubuntu might also be good for other linuxes too.
I am not advertyising anything, and yes even though I know it is a sin to like another distro other then openSUSE here or mention one I do give the devil credit where it is due.
And now its time to deal with the disro envy crowd, I will just repost what I said on the matter in some of my earlier topics:
I am a multi distro user (an admitted distro hopper) I like Linux in general, no matter the distro or who makes that said distro I am a fan of linux as a whole and I try to keep open minded on other distros.
I use 4 operating systems in this house, this computer has a triple boot as I interchange between WinXP, OpenSuse and Ubuntu.
My setup is this, I am using Ubuntu for general computing, OpenSuse for about the same reasons though I am keeping it as a standby too just in case the current Ubuntu does not live up to expectations, I also use WinXP for minor gaming and its there for my husband who uses windows for work (though he is becoming more comfortable with linux over time)
For him I gave a dualboot of Linux Mint and WinXP, I gave him Linux Mint for the simple reason it offered codecs and stuff like that preinstalled and he is still getting used to how to install packages and such.
He sort of sees me as some kind of computer whiz, really am not as I wont consider myself one until I build a computer of my own.
Anyhow my point is that here even mentioning Ubuntu is like I am swearing, I mean the language filter here is messed up enough when you write the word F Arther (sorry its the only way to write that word) the F A R T part of that word is edited out as the language filter is a little over sensitive but now it seems we must add Ubuntu to the bad words list too.
Look I use Ubuntu, I use OpenSuse, whats the harm in using more then one bloody distro!
Its all open source for crying out loud!
Jeez dont be a jerk about it, there are some things that I like Ubuntu for I wont deny it but come on dude there is room in this world for both OpenSuse and Ubuntu.
Ubuntu and OpenSuse both have their flaws and merits.
To just say everything about OpenSuse or Ubuntu is perfect is not my intention.
I have said once that in terms of multimedia and to a point support Ubuntu is the better from what I have seen.
In terms of stability however and performance the jury is still out.
I cannot give OpenSuse a full judgment right now but I have already seen many of its flaws and merits and can name a few things that I think ubuntu has done a better job on.
If its some sort of crime to prefer one distro over anther we should all be locked up you know, its not a crime to like Ubuntu more then OpenSuse or vice versa.
But you make it seem like I committed murder or something here.
No I just stated my observations on certain matters, I was not condemning OpenSuse or anything
Look be mad at me all you want for liking ubuntu, I do and it is my right to like Ubuntu rather if you like it or not.
Linux is linux
I haven’t tried any alpha’s beta or anything from Ubuntu since Karmic failed for me. Please note the “for me” part. The problems I had were related to my hardware and not necessarily Ubuntu’s fault.
FizzyFanta wrote:
> cjcox;2156598 Wrote:
>> On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 03:26 +0000, TaraIkeda wrote:
>>> Out of all the linux distors to see a release this year -I feel-
>> that
>>> Ubuntu Lucid Lynx has a lot going on for it.
>> Ok… This is like saying McDonald’s new and improved Big Mac
>> will supplant all hamburgers and become the hamburger standard.
>>
>> Can this get moved to soapbox? * The premise is ridiculous…*
>>
>>
>
> What premise??
>
> TaraIkeda has simply posted an opinion he/she has on Ubuntu 10.04,
> emphasis on “I feel” hence clearly an opinion.
Uh… “I feel” usually doesn’t use an EQUAL sign. Could just be
bad headlining (designed to rile people).
Ubuntu Lucic Lynx = Might be the distro to make Linux a standard?
While that also is “opinion”, it’s not a statement of
discussion, it’s a premise and an offer to challenge
the premise. So… bad subject maybe???
I’m prepared to challenge it and create a war thread… I just
don’t think it’s appropriate in this forum. The “I feel” didn’t
really carry across in the “fanboy” like post about Ubuntu
to an openSUSE forum… but I digress…
>
> I also can’t any similarity between your hamburger statement and
> TaraIkeda’s opinion.
I thought it was spot on myself. Should have used a car
analogy. Linux users love a good car analogy.
>
> Maybe you are eating too many??
You are sooooo funny!!
>
>
> Back on topic,
>
> I am also very keen to try out 10.04
Now that’s a relevant discussion point without a flame war premise.
Mmm, maybe you two could chat it out between yourselves?
I agree that the topic title was a bit provocative, and also while I do use Kubuntu at work (for historical reasons, but since I work mostly with CLI, the distro matters little), I wouldn’t go out to publicise an Ubuntu release here, but still, if there are noteworthy improvements to draw attention to, then it’s good for users that the bar has been raised. The short boot time is nice.
So I glanced at the OP’s name, recognised it, adjusted my expectations, and didn’t get hot under the collar. 
Dell is selling some of their netbooks and laptops with Ubuntu, and I have the first netbook which came out with it installed and the only problem I have had so far is the Solid State Drive which is loaded before you use it. I have less than 1gb of space left and I’m currently looking for a larger drive so the OS can be updated.
Tested Lucid too. Admit, it’s nice, fast. I’m not a Gnome fan, but the implementation is well done.
But…I use NIS/NFS in a couple of networks, try configuring those services on *buntu and compare that to openSUSE.
I’ve tried a few distros in the last month or so, and what I’ve found is that all seem to offer a few great points, but I still can’t find one that covers ALL the bases.
openSUSE still feels like home to me, even though it makes me so bloody angry at times.
A case of “better the devil you know” I guess.