The change in support length from 18 months to 9 months will reduce the number of releases we need to support in parallel while still allowing enough time for our users to upgrade to the next release.
9 months seems to be too short. Why don’t they increase 6 months to 12 or something release cycle instead of reducing support
Always amazes me the number of Ubuntu posts in the OpenSUSE forum.
Who cares? Honestly, there’s nothing that I like about Ubuntu which is why
I am here in an OpenSUSE forum. Do I need updates on the latest moves by
Ubuntu? I don’t hang out in the Ubuntu forum, are there posts there about
OpenSUSE? Just odd.
Well as a semi regular Ubuntu user yeah this move seems odd, especially for developers of apps as why bother making new packages for new versions if they will be obsolete so soon unless a LTS?
The problem with LTS releases is that they get out of date so fast, Ubuntu really needs better backporting.
Well do understand there are some Buntu users here, like myself so news like this does make me tilt my head and make me wonder if I will even bother giving the next buntu (13.04) release a shot.
I was planning on it as Unity is getting a few new bells and whistles that interest me but seeing that the release wont last and who knows how bad/good 13.10 will be.
I mean concerning my track record I was probably not going to be able to use 13.04 anyway and this puts another nail in its coffin
(in my experience every odd numbered .04 release has caused me issues or gripes. 7.04 never worked for me, 9.04 never worked either, 11.04 was actually the first one to actually sort of work for me but that is when Unity was first introduced and it was a real mess at that time.
And yeah I know unity is hated by many but it did improve, its very good in 12.04 and 12.10 IMHO)
According to a Ubuntu website, LTS are supported for 5 years (both server and desktop versions). A new LTS is produced every two years. What do you mean by ‘out of date’ ? … Those who want something more current than every 2 years are welcome to do a couple installs of the version produced every 6 months.
Note I’m not a Ubuntu fan. I’ve never installed Ubuntu on a desktop in more than just a test partition (as I prefer openSUSE) but while their support strategy is different from openSUSE’s, IMHO its just a different approach and I don’t understand the concern (with Ubuntu).
I “follow” Canonical/Ubuntu, but recently that has changed from “interested in what they do” by the decisions made. The opt-out on Amazon (this would for me be a reason to leave any distro), the way they develop Mir (behind closed doors), the way they contribute to FOSS (almost nothing). The “free” (as in free beers and free thought) part is slowly removed, which IMHO shows a direction towards a commercial product, where free and open don’t matter any longer. This one, the change in support length, is, again IMHO, another step to move away from the community to an in house developped product. And yes, I do feel sorry to have to say so.
Am 24.03.2013 09:46, schrieb Sagemta:
> 2) Don’t flame but Ubu is my Plan C in case anything happens to
> Opensuse.
that leads to the question: what is plan B?
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On 2013-03-24 12:56, Knurpht wrote:
>
> I “follow” Canonical/Ubuntu, but recently that has changed from
> “interested in what they do” by the decisions made. The opt-out on
> Amazon (this would for me be a reason to leave any distro), the way they
> develop Mir (behind closed doors), the way they contribute to FOSS
> (almost nothing). The “free” (as in free beers and free thought) part
> is slowly removed, which IMHO shows a direction towards a commercial
> product, where free and open don’t matter any longer. This one, the
> change in support length, is, again IMHO, another step to move away from
> the community to an in house developped product. And yes, I do feel
> sorry to have to say so.
I have not looked myself, but a friend of mine wanted a Linux live
yesterday, and went to Ubuntu. He claims that the download page wanted
him to pay money for the download.
I have not verified this, as I say, and I only believe it 10%, it is so
outrageous. Maybe google dumped him onto a fake download page.
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Am 24.03.2013 16:58, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> I have not verified this, as I say, and I only believe it 10%, it is so
> outrageous. Maybe google dumped him onto a fake download page.
>
When you download from ubuntu.com there is a paypal option for a
donation before you download, nobody forces you to donate something,
just proceed without it for free (gratis).
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I was exploring their site after is saw the news about them asking for donation when i saw a tour link(Ubuntu online tour)
I thought that it would be something along lines of SUSE studio(live image boot)
Alas it was just a mock up. When i tried to use Libreoffice or anything during “tour” it asks me download ubuntu
On 2013-03-24 17:07, Martin Helm wrote:
> Am 24.03.2013 16:58, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
>> I have not verified this, as I say, and I only believe it 10%, it is so
>> outrageous. Maybe google dumped him onto a fake download page.
>>
> When you download from ubuntu.com there is a paypal option for a
> donation before you download, nobody forces you to donate something,
> just proceed without it for free (gratis).
Oh. :-o
My friend just barely reads English, so I can understand his mistake
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There is nothing wrong with that if you ask me, as a Ubuntu convert I always keep a copy of ubuntu on the side if I feel a distro is not working out for me.
I have spent the better part of my lifer on linux using Ubuntu and truth be told I think it is a good gateway distro all things considered, in some ways its better then openSUSE at least in terms of support by the community sorry to say (but its pretty much the most popular linux for new users because a lot of people have heard of it so that is bound to happen)
Meaning the software becomes outdated over time and you have to use outside sources to get more current packages.
Such as gimp 2.8, sure in openSUSE you have to do that too thus where more rolling release distros do a little better job on this front.
Well yes Ubuntu is becoming more commercial, though thats like calling the kettle black as Novell does the same thing Canonical does though novell does better on the open source front.
No it just asks for donations and can be skipped.
Yes it is, but its mainly there who are curious on how it works and operates as Unity will seem strange to a new user.
It’s clearly donation, but I’ve seen fake ubuntu pages in the past where payment was demanded, either to make official download links clickable, or to redirect the user to something malicious.
