Following all advices given, I tried to update a smoothly running Tumblweed to 12.1. Having done SuSE-updates since 6.x or something like that, I expected a few glitches, however, as we are talking about a “rolling release”, I hoped they would be minor. Wrong guess - the update messed up my complete system in a way no former conventional major release update was able to.
Before I have to completely re-install my system, maybe some of you have a few hints for the multitude of f**k-ups:
Many version downgrades (kernel, Firefox, etc.) in comparision to Tumbleweed 11.4 - as e.g. KDE is allergic to incompatible config files, this might be the reason for some problems?
systemd takes forever to boot. As there is no more progress indicator, you are not even able to find out what takes so long.
swap device no longer mounted, as “mount point swap does not exist” (which is the mountpoint previous versions and the current yast2 assign to swap)
KDE effects work sometimes, most of the time however disabled (I have to admit I use the evil proprietary driver, which worked always before). Recompile etc. does not work
Kwin crashes many times, even without effects
Right now, for no reason I can discern, the graphical login fails completely :(.
I probably was a bit naive to expect a flawless update, however, a “rolling release” in which an update messes up the complete system is not really what should happen. I know that from running Factory, but that’s another story.
Hi! I’ve got just the same problem.
Updated with no problems. System takes forever to boot (=I’ve neves seen my desktop again). Graphical login not showing.
I’ve made complete reinstall using 12.1 and have some serious graphics problems.
Up to now I though I’m alone with this problem…
Here is my thread My system is ruined?
I will be rolling back to 11.4 today.
I just got my graphical login back by installing all “kdm”-related packages again forcibly. Right now even desktop effects seem to work, however, I already had that several times and it never survived a reboot :(.
What itches me most is the complete lack of documentation. The systemd-page in the wiki e.g. does not go into details what - as a longtime SuSE user - you have to adjust to. Is it e.g. completely normal that you have a extremely prolonged boot time and not the slightest output what is going on at the moment? Or is that a update oddity in the switch from sysvinit? And many more things.
(The fact that systemd is unable to mount my swap device e.g. is nowhere visible, I only found out about that by running “mount”
or using an obscure systemctl command)
BTW, kdm has lost the possibility to select users by mouse - a regression back to xdm-days. And it swallows characters when typing the password. Both are already known problems, but if stuff like that makes it into a 12.1 release, you can only wonder what other glitches are hidden beyond the hood.
Smaller things: XVBA video acceleration is broken, too.
As this is Tumbleweed first real test as a rolling release (which should smoothly adapt to distribution updates), I would say it was a complete desaster, at least for me.
Something is wrong with video system. Maybe x,org?
I’m not surprised xvba-video (the one from packman or hellgast repo?) is not working.
Direct3D under Wine isn’t working too.
My plan - for now - is to make my own “Tumbleweed” using additional 11.4 repositories. Maybe even factory-tested ones. Dunno if it is possible, but I will try.
It should work until 12.2 arrives, or at least until 12.1 is fixed.
Also, I will be testing Linux Mint Debian Edition (true rolling release). I feel suse is better for me, but at least I will give it a try
Note: Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) is a rolling distribution based on Debian Testing. Testing, currently aliased wheezy, is what the next major release will be and is currently being tested. The packages included in this distribution have had some testing in unstable but they may not be completely fit for release yet. It contains more modern packages than stable but older than unstable. This distribution is updated continually until it enters the “frozen” state. Security updates for testing distribution are provided by Debian testing security team (Debian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).
Tried this based on how-tos posted by swerdna (tumbleweed 11.4 > 12.1), too many files had dependencies error here and there, got to drop tumbleweed and do the fresh install
