Yesterday I installed the latest updates for Tumbleweed which included the new kernel 4.0.3 and KDE 4.14.8. Reinstalled latest NVIDIA driver too.
After that I saw that all my customizations for the KDE were gone - no icons in the panel, custom keyboard shortcuts - just gone. Previously I had replaced the default ALT+mouse move for windows with Meta+mouse. But now when I try to do it in Configure Desktop it doesn’t change anything - still only the ALT+move is active regardless of the setting being remembered correctly.
I need to fix that as I use certain software which uses the ALT+mousemove for some of its in-window functions.
Another thing: I also see that the keyboard layout switching doesn’t work as expected. I have set my keyboard combination but there is no indication in the panel and even the huge language icon which appeared in the center of the screen yesterday, now doesn’t show when switching layouts.
No.
You are not using “KDE 4.14.8” as desktop, you are using Plasma 5.3.0.
After that I saw that all my customizations for the KDE were gone - no icons in the panel, custom keyboard shortcuts - just gone. Previously I had replaced the default ALT+mouse move for windows with Meta+mouse. But now when I try to do it in Configure Desktop it doesn’t change anything - still only the ALT+move is active regardless of the setting being remembered correctly.
Use Plasma5’s “Systemsettings” instead of KDE4’s “Configure Desktop”.
And yes, the desktop settings are not migrated from KDE4 (except for some). Applications should migrate their settings though.
Another thing: I also see that the keyboard layout switching doesn’t work as expected. I have set my keyboard combination but there is no indication in the panel and even the huge language icon which appeared in the center of the screen yesterday, now doesn’t show when switching layouts.
Again, use systemsettings5 instead of KDE4’s systemsettings.
Plasma is the name of KDE’s desktop, even in “KDE 4” already.
I just simply saw the help->about of Configure Desktop was saying KDE 4.14.8
In which application?
A KDE4 application will display the version of kdelibs4, which is 4.14.8 currently.
Is Plasma a complete replacement for KDE or can one switch to standard KDE?
See above.
Plasma is already part of KDE4 since its beginnings. It replaced KDE3’s kicker and kdesktop 8 years ago.
And now KDE4’s Plasma (desktop) has been replaced by the KF5/Qt5 based version in Tumbleweed, which had its first release about a year ago and is now at 5.3.0.
But that is just the desktop. About half of the official KDE applications have been ported to KDE Frameworks 5 (the “replacement” for kdelibs4) already, but the other half is still KDE4 based.
In Configure Desktop (which I used before getting the info from you).
Thanks for explaining about Plasma.
BTW today after a reboot I saw the “Switch to next Keyboard Layout” global shortcut was self-reset to its default value Ctrl+Alt+K instead of remembering my preference set yesterday (Meta+Alt+Space) set in System Settings. I have redone this but I wonder why it could have changed?
Ok, as mentioned, this is the KDE4 systemsettings.
Btw, Plasma5’s systemsettings5 has been renamed to “Configure Desktop” as well meanwhile, that change should reach you with one of the next Tumbleweed snapshots, just so you don’t get confused…
And for non-English users, the name is the upstream “Systemsettings” anyway in either case.
BTW today after a reboot I saw the “Switch to next Keyboard Layout” global shortcut was self-reset to its default value Ctrl+Alt+K instead of remembering my preference set yesterday (Meta+Alt+Space) set in System Settings. I have redone this but I wonder why it could have changed?
Hm. If you changed it in KDE4’s settings, it would be clear why it got reset (as it never really got saved for KF5/Plasma5).
If you used systemsettings5, it might be a bug.
No idea at the moment, but I’ll try to reproduce it here.
I’m using 13.2, but have Plasma 5.3.0 from KDE:Frameworks5, the devel repo for Tumbleweed, installed. (actually I’m using my own co-installable with KDE4 packages branched from there, but that shouldn’t make a difference… )
Sorry for the delay.
I can reproduce your issue here, but this problem only seems to happen with “Switch to next Keyboard Layout” global shortcut, others I tried are remembered.
The shortcut seems to be saved, but not loaded, and therefore reverts to the default on login.
I probably will file a bug report at http://bugs.kde.org/tomorrow or so (or you can too if you want to, but in this case please post a link to the bug report). I 'm not quite sure which component would be the right one though (kglobalaccel maybe).
I am not as experienced in linux as you are (still learning a lot of things). I suppose you know how to report the bug in a proper way. But I am glad I found something which will hopefully be fixed
Even after the latest update the issue with the global keyboard shortcut for “Switch to next keyboard layout” not being remembered after reboot seems to exist.
Sometimes it takes more than a few days to fix a bug. The responsible developer(s) might be busy with other, more important, things…
Btw, it does work to set a keyboard shortcut for switching to a specific keyboard layout in the layout settings.
Although you have to change some other setting too to be able to “Apply” the shortcut change, and it isn’t correctly displayed there either (but it is in the “Global Shortcuts” module).
Or you can change the switch layout shortcut on the Xorg level, by clicking on the button next to “Main Shortcuts” (on the top right of the window, right below “Shortcuts for Switching Layout”) and activating one in the list.
This does work and is remembered after logging out and in again…
No idea what you looked at, but it’s here:
And you can also reach those settings on the “Advanced” tab.
BTW PrintScreen also doesn’t evoke ksnapshot like it used to do although it seems to be set. Any idea how to fix that?
Works fine here.
Do you actually have ksnapshot installed?
Is the corresponding shortcut activated in “Custom Shortcuts”, and the “Input Actions” service enabled in Startup and Shutdown->Background Services?
Do you get some error message or is the shortcut just ignored?
Also note that you need to use systemsettings5 to configure shortcuts for Plasma5. KDE4’s systemsettigns will be ignored.
Yes. But what actually solved the problem was to change the Command/URL from ksnapshot to /usr/bin/ksnapshot and it works now.
Just to note: those settings are available only in systemsettings, not in 5.
In systemsettings5 there is no menu for Startup and Shutdown. In the “System Administration” section I see only YaST and no other icons.
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