Trying to sway my wife to Leap

I put my ‘live Leap 15’ USB in my laptop, and let her do some of the things she does in Win10. She seemed to like it, and for what she does on her machine, she certainly does not need the monster MS is putting out. (if nothing else I will put Win7 back on her machine, but MS has IMO throttled it with it’s Win7 updates trying to force a change to 10)
Actually she really only needs what is on the live version plus the browser she prefers, and the Python Galileo thing for here FItbit.

Granted she will need more ‘keyboard and mouse’ time, and I already admin her Win 10, so I think what I know now will at least let me get it set up, and hope she doesn’t click on the wrong thing to make it a problem.

I am just really tired of MS in our life. That monster is getting worse every Insider Preview and looks to be much worse in the coming year.

Sorry, I got off on a rant.

Good move Bill. You’ll be guaranteed of getting better support here than you ever will with MS too.

You bet! THe only support we get out of MS is the ignoring of what we have been asking them for all along since the initial release of Win10.
An OS and not another Apple attitude toward their users.

I don’t read this as a rant, but as a good plan instead. In 2001 I gave my (now ex-)wife a SuSE install just to try, where she at the time did not have any real issues on XP, but did complain that it was getting slower and slower. After three months I found out that XP hadn’t been booted ever since, so I reused it’s space :slight_smile: . It took her more than a year to notice that XP had gone. She still uses Leap AFAIK. For her work ( teacher ) on the job she had to use Windows, that she referred to as a Wooden OS .
In the end most people have enough with a browser and a file manager, maybe a photo viewer, office suite, email client. Available by default on most desktop environments.

Good luck, in case of trouble, you know how to find us :).

Yes. I put 42.2 on my wife’s old dell laptop some time ago. She can do everything she was doing before and has a “personal assistant” if she needs any help or changes.
I updated it to 42.3 last year and will update it to 15 soon.

In the interest of balance, I have three elderly gentlemen whom I have persuaded to move to Linux - one hardly noticed the difference and the other two are very satisfied with the greater ease of use and variety of programs available to meet their needs.

I have done so with many, also with many elderly – but not just gentlemen, but also grand elder ladies – and in most cases they hardly notice a difference except that things are a lot quicker and easier.:wink:

And, the Redmond folks, especially with “Windows #10”, want us to register with Microsoft and, move our e-Mail accounts over to “outlook.com” or, for Germans, “outlook.de” …
It gets to be a little bit scary when, you begin to setup the “Outlook” account to automatically forward everything to an e-Mail account located at your ISP:

  • If you use Firefox on Linux to do the changes on the Outlook account, the Redmonders begin to suspect that, you’re a terrorist and, they request that you provide a telephone number so they can send an SMS with an access PIN to allow you to continue with the forwarding setup.

I’ve noticed that, both Redmond and Google (Android mobile telephone) believe that, my Linux Desktop machine is located in southern Bavaria: it isn’t but, possibly, that’s where the Internet access node of my ISP is located … Physically, my location is about 200 km north of what “they” believe … >:)
My ISP resets my IP address every 24 hours at about 5 o’clock in the morning – both Redmond and Google find this to be “suspicious” …

And on the ‘flip’ side, my wife is seeing the trouble I am having getting Leap 15 up and running on my Toshiba UEFI laptop with hybrid graphics(Intel/nVidia).
Her Toshiba laptop is legacy MRB, and has just the MOBO graphics, but I can’t convince her that her and my machine are two different animals, and she wants noting to do with it.
And she DOES hate Win10!

… someday??

What model is that Toshiba laptop?

Another question Bill - Does the live distro you mentioned in your opening post play nice with the Toshiba laptop?

Outside of being very slow, Yes it does, I booted the live Leap 15 USB last night hoping to get some better information from the install that won’t boot.

That is encouraging. Since bumblebee doesn’t play nice with your graphics architecture, it might be best to install as per the live distro.

I don’t know what version the live installer uses, the one on the live media, NET, DVD.
I have been told it would be the NET., another member though it would only be what the live is, whic( is not much.

I have asked about removing Leap without borking my Win10.(see the Install/Login section).
I don’t have an install DVD.
So more hoop jumping in my future it seems.

It will use the network connection to grab updated packages, as per the net installer. My suggestion was really on the back of your feedback about the live distro working ok with your graphics hardware, albeit I have no idea which graphics device is in use in this situation.

I have asked about removing Leap without borking my Win10.(see the Install/Login section).

Gerry has given you some advice there I believe.

Yes he has, and I plan to try it first.

When I first installed on the laptop, it worked very well UNTIL I tried to do a shutdown and/or reboot and it hung up.
So I hit the power button(big mistake!).
After that no full boot as you know since you have been the one trying to help me through this.

gogalthorp also made some suggestions in that thread.

Best to use a CLI command for that perhaps eg

systemctl poweroff

or

shutdown -h now

A bug report can be submitted as well.

Mine is a Toshiba Satellite S70-A (Win8.1 upgrades to Win10)
My wife’s is a Toshiba Satellite C70-A (Win 7 upgrades to Win10)

Unfortunately, the only method I know of to reliably test if openSUSE or, any other Operating System for that matter, reliably executes on a given hardware platform is:

  1. Install a new fresh hard disk for the OS testing – remove the one with the Redmond licence and store it safely somewhere else.
  2. Install from either the DVD or, if you have enough Internet bandwidth and volume (flat rate), the “Network” CD-ROM.

« The openSUSE download site is currently down for maintenance – I can’t check if Leap 15.0 still has the “Network” installation option … »

It does (as it has been offered since many previous versions), but Bill has already succeeded here if you’ve been following his concurrent threads. :slight_smile: