im thinking abount getting an eee pc and wanted to see if i can trim down an opensuse installation. is there any way to see the bottom most packages of the dependency tree (the ones that nothing depends on) only so that i can remove just the packages i dont want and then clean up their stale dependencies? or would i be better off trying to do a minimal x11 install instead and then building up the system from there?
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Look up opensuse or SLES JeOS (Just enough OS). It’s a base install
that has the minimums on which you can build whatever you need.
http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=uqr_JjH5ssw
Good luck.
darkhammer81 wrote:
> im thinking abount getting an eee pc and wanted to see if i can trim
> down an opensuse installation. is there any way to see the bottom most
> packages of the dependency tree (the ones that nothing depends on) only
> so that i can remove just the packages i dont want and then clean up
> their stale dependencies? or would i be better off trying to do a
> minimal x11 install instead and then building up the system from there?
>
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- darkhammer81,
http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_on_the_EeePC
is probably helpful.
Else I’d start with a minimal X11 system, yes.
Uwe
ok so this leads my to my next question. there is a live USB image there… how do i write it to the usb drive?
Hi
Have a read of the how to’s in the first section 
HOWTOs
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I’ve worked with both the bottoms-up approach using the “minimal no X” option from the standard installation, and JeOS.
JeOS is smaller. But it is based on SLES, has an older kernel, and has not been subsequently developed (it never got beyond “beta”). Getting additional pieces, the 90-day activation, no further investment, made it an interesting experiment but not really useful for the longer term. However, the good news (I hope) is that there is the “suse studio” project, based on the kiwi framework (already in openSUSE for creating appliances), which offers that you can “create a tuned server appliance, containing your application and just enough operating system components” or “spin a live CD or DVD with just the packages and software you need” (that latter term “spin” is what Fedora calls its derivatives). I’m hoping the reason JeOS hasn’t been further developed, is because studio takes its place. I’m on the mailing list, haven’t heard anything further yet. Website here SUSE Studio
The minimal install is easy because it is fully integrated with the larger software footprint, can use all the same repositories as the rest of 11.0, and it’s supported. But, carving it down further is a hassle because of the software “patterns”. The base patterns in openSUSE make the software more manageable, but result in many pattern dependencies that are not actually software dependencies. You can force the breaks, but that results in YaST yelling at you about it forever. Two alternatives I haven’t fully explored yet are using a different package manager or building my own repository. But again, the studio, if it comes to fruition, looks to be the best alternative.
Hope some of this helps.
PS to above: I just saw posts on one of the internal community mailing lists discussing studio. There is clearly a lot of interest, and Novell has discussed this publicly as recently as last week. But nothing more than what is on the website; all indications so far appear that it still is in alpha.