Hehehe, I meant your experiences with getting transactional-update working on TW, but apparently we were on the same track in the past. I started in 1990 as a sysadmin / software programmer. Turned the green way after slackware, so S.u.S.E. / SUSE / openSUSE. TW since 2012 ( way before it became original ).
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Oh, sorry. About transactional-update on TW, post is yet to coming
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Little background: My primary system were un-used almost a year and now I access it via ssh. To upgrade, I decided to stick on zypper dup. During my journey I found transactional-update (which is unsupported for Tumbleweed). But I found some obstacles despite I decided to continue anyway. With those trics shown below, I was able to squeeze vendor changes to 10 while there is 6099 packages upgrade, 454 new packages.
zypper ls -d
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI
--+----------------------------------+----------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss | Main Repository (NON-OSS) | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/
2 | download.opensuse.org-oss | Main Repository (OSS) | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/
3 | download.opensuse.org-tumbleweed | Main Update Repository | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/
4 | graphics | graphics | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | 100 | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/
5 | packman | packman | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | 90 | rpm-md | https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/
6 | repo-debug | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Debug | No | ---- | ---- | 99 | N/A | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/tumbleweed/repo/oss/
7 | repo-source | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Source | No | ---- | ---- | 99 | N/A | http://download.opensuse.org/source/tumbleweed/repo/oss/
My /etc/zypp/zypp.conf states:
solver.dupAllowVendorChange = true
A snapshot is generated. Yet to I have to ask my five reboot so I can see if snapshot really works.
# │ Type │ Pre # │ Date │ User │ Used Space │ Cleanup │ Description │ Userdata
─────┼────────┼───────┼──────────────────────────────────┼──────┼────────────┼─────────┼─────────────────────────┼─────────
0 │ single │ │ │ root │ │ │ current │
923 │ single │ │ Fri 01 May 2026 04:46:39 PM EEST │ root │ 13.31 GiB │ │ writable copy of #919 │
944* │ single │ │ Sun 05 Jul 2026 05:43:04 PM EEST │ root │ 14.77 GiB │ number │ Snapshot Update of #923 │
rebooting TW from transactional-updated snapshot 944 were success.
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I was too early in celebrating success. Somehow I managed to mess with my repositories so that I can’t play with updates. I can only play with already installed packages. Yes, I have read Kubic’s Transactional Update manual. Zypper says:
zypper -vD --download-only dup
Verbosity: 2
Initializing Target
Loading repository data...
Warning: No repositories defined. Operating only with the installed resolvables. Nothing can be installed.
Reading installed packages...
Computing distribution upgrade...
Force resolution: No
Computing upgrade...
Nothing to do.
And my current snapshots:
snapper list
# │ Type │ Pre # │ Date │ User │ Used Space │ Cleanup │ Description │ Userdata
─────┼────────┼───────┼──────────────────────────────────┼──────┼────────────┼─────────┼─────────────────────────┼─────────
0 │ single │ │ │ root │ │ │ current │
923 │ single │ │ Fri 01 May 2026 04:46:39 PM EEST │ root │ 13.92 GiB │ │ writable copy of #919 │
944 │ single │ │ Sun 05 Jul 2026 05:43:04 PM EEST │ root │ 1.96 MiB │ number │ Snapshot Update of #923 │
949 │ single │ │ Tue 14 Jul 2026 06:08:10 PM EEST │ root │ 896.00 KiB │ number │ Snapshot Update of #944 │
950 │ single │ │ Tue 14 Jul 2026 06:16:33 PM EEST │ root │ 688.00 KiB │ number │ Snapshot Update of #944 │
951 │ single │ │ Tue 14 Jul 2026 06:27:12 PM EEST │ root │ 688.00 KiB │ number │ Snapshot Update of #944 │
952 │ single │ │ Tue 14 Jul 2026 06:44:18 PM EEST │ root │ 688.00 KiB │ number │ Snapshot Update of #944 │
953 │ single │ │ Tue 14 Jul 2026 06:48:25 PM EEST │ root │ 688.00 KiB │ number │ Snapshot Update of #944 │
954 │ single │ │ Tue 14 Jul 2026 07:14:22 PM EEST │ root │ 928.00 KiB │ number │ Snapshot Update of #944 │
958* │ single │ │ Tue 14 Jul 2026 07:32:01 PM EEST │ root │ 23.61 MiB │ number │ Snapshot Update of #944 │
My repositories:
zypper lr -d
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Keep | Priority | Type | URI | Service
--+--------------+----------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+------+----------+--------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1 | graphics | graphics | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | Yes | 100 | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ |
2 | packman | packman | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | Yes | 90 | rpm-md | https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ |
3 | repo-debug | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Debug | No | ---- | ---- | Yes | 99 | N/A | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ |
4 | repo-non-oss | repo-non-oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | - | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss |
5 | repo-oss | repo-oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | - | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ |
6 | repo-source | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Source | No | ---- | ---- | Yes | 99 | N/A | http://download.opensuse.org/source/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ |
7 | repo-update | repo-update | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | - | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/ |
What could I try, please tell me?
Try, instead:
type or paste code here
Try, instead:
zypper -v dup -D --download-only
When you put option before the “dup” they are taken to be global options rather than options for “dup”. And, as a global option, the “-D” means to redefine the directory where repos are specified.
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@nikkej It’s transactional-update dup no zypper iteration involved…
Uggh, my bad.Stupid me did not check options carefully enough
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@malcolmlewis, if you mean transactional-update run mechanism, that is something I’ll try next time when I have huge amount of updates
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