To many distros?

As I wrote early today:

-using computers as a tool
-using computers as a tool and free time pleasure
-using computers as a tool and free time pleasure and try to find new ways to make life more easy

When do we see it or recolonize it? The perfect dist?

Regards

I can’t be sure, but it will be after we find the Holy Grail. :X

Haven’t had snow here in ages, unlike other parts of Canada, which were still getting hammered with major snowstorms the last I heard. I have no idea if they have a special distro for ice-encrusted PCs, but I suspect the desktop would by IceWM?

… forgot to reply to this.

That’s actually a picture of my PR Director/Marketing Assistant, Hobbes. :slight_smile:

On 2014-04-05 21:56, jonte1 wrote:

> You mean driving on the wrong side of road? facts or fictions.lol!

Which one is the wrong side?

There is an article on the wikipedia about this, and some history.
Apparently Greek, Egyptians, and Romans used the left side, and it was
Napoleon who switched to the right side.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-_and_left-hand_traffic

My country, Spain, had mixed hand driving up to the mid twenties of past
centuries. It does not surprise me. We also had different units of
measure on different cities!

The article mentions a curious point: postal and services vehicles
having the driver at the kerb side of the vehicle, to facilitate their
job. The UK imports such vehicles from the mainland, and viceversa.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

You found a good link. I see many more still drive on the left than I imagined. I note my guess about why historically we travelled on the left “keeping the sword-arm free on the right-hand side” is similarly explained in the History section. Not such a wild guess, as historically women were escorted on a man’s left side to keep the sword-arm free. The only exception being when a father escorts his daughter along the aisle of a church for the marriage ceremony (may depend on country). It was the only occasion considered safe enough for the sword-arm to be covered.

I’d put Debian on the right also. It is quite difficult for new linux users to set it up (I’ve seen many difficulties setting up the sources list, let alone anything else. openSUSE makes many things easier, be it through obs, packman et al.
That’s why i say, openSUSE really hits the sweet spot :slight_smile:

On 2014-04-06 16:26, consused wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2635380 Wrote:
>>
>> There is an article on the wikipedia about this, and some history.
>> Apparently Greek, Egyptians, and Romans used the left side, and it was
>> Napoleon who switched to the right side.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-_and_left-hand_traffic
>
> You found a good link. I see many more still drive on the left than I
> imagined.

Yes, me too.

It is obvious, there is some advantage to use the same hand as your
neighbours.

On the other hand… it reminds me on a curious decision to do exactly
the opposite. When trains started to be build in Spain, we intentionally
used a different track gauge than France (1,668 mm instead of 1,435 mm),
with the explicit purpose of hindering invasions.

So our trains used “broad gauge”, and Portugal had to follow suit. I
thought we used the same as Russia, but the wikipedia says not.

Now, the new high speed trains are built to the same gauge as France and
Germany, I understand. Anyway, they need entirely new tracks and layout…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_gauge_in_Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_gauge

We also have some trains (starting with the Talgo) that automatically
change their wheel positions at a point near the frontier pass into
France. Previously, passengers had to board a different train just there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_gauge

> I note my guess about why historically we travelled on the
> left “keeping the sword-arm free on the right-hand side” is similarly
> explained in the History section. Not such a wild guess, as historically
> women were escorted on a man’s left side to keep the sword-arm free. The
> only exception being when a father escorts his daughter along the aisle
> of a church for the marriage ceremony (may depend on country). It was
> the only occasion considered safe enough for the sword-arm to be
> covered.

The thing about escorting is new to me. But crossing other knights on
the sword hand, I heard it many times, told by British folk I met (“We
on the wrong side? No, /you/ are on the wrong side!” :-)) )


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

Hmmm …

It just occurred to me …

I think my avatar is keeping a close eye on nrickert’s avatar, or robin_listas’ avatar, or perhaps both. Look at that concentrated gleam in Hobbes’ eye!

Yeah…back then I used RedHat…and then today SUSE is enough for me :\

I don’t see it as too many distros, but as too many low quality or derivative distros.

Apart from the utter madness which is attaching a different initial letter to every derivative of Ubuntu that has not Unity as the default desktop, as if the underpinnings were not the very same.

I agree up to a point. Low quality can damage collective reputation, and it gets worse with increasing numbers of those. WRT derivatives, it depends on what value they add. If that is low then too many will just feed the disappointment factor and turn-off some prospective users.

In that context, one could question the role of the DistroWatch website. On the one hand it informs about the many available, on the other hand it feeds expansion, in a kind of self-perpetuation.

Apart from the utter madness which is attaching a different initial letter to every derivative of Ubuntu that has not Unity as the default desktop, as if the underpinnings were not the very same.

I think that happened long before Unity. Ubuntu was once a derivative of debian, and I’m pretty sure that openSUSE would not now allow a separate derivative distro to use its name in that way i.e. extended in some way.

Indeed, it happened long ago but I was talking about the current situation. OpenSUSE comes with different options for desktop environment, and differences are so radical as to affect the package manager used by one or other “flavour”, but they are all named openSUSE. Meanwhile other distros are marketed as distinct although the only differences are aesthetic.

On 2014-04-07 04:16, Fraser Bell wrote:
>
> Fraser_Bell;2635344 Wrote:
>>
>> That’s actually a picture of my PR Director/Marketing Assistant, Hobbes.
>>
>
> Hmmm …
>
> It just occurred to me …
>
> I think -my- avatar is keeping a close eye on nrickert’s avatar, or
> robin_listas’ avatar, or perhaps both. Look at that concentrated gleam
> in Hobbes’ eye!

LOL!


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

Interesting article. I learned a lot. I’m not sure i agree upon all the historical facts then. I other articles on Wiki it says something else in some on sources. Never mind.

Here in Sweden the Post service cars have “wrong side steering wheel” as well. I also have seen some security company’s to have that setup.

Well at least i be can proud of something, the modern spelling in Swedish is: Styrbord and babord. In English Starbord and larboard(in modern Eng. port) and so on.

Regards :slight_smile:

LOL here as well. Another of my avatars (I have 3) is a Polar dog with the spark in he’s eye. Cats and bird was on the dinner list :.

Regards.

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Good!lol!

Now I found a very interesting issue “low quality”. How do people measure that? Definition of quality is not always clear. How many are satisfied with the product compared with the whole? Then Linux over all have a low quality. Or they don’t now (my personal opinion)?

Regards

That’s my personal opinion too. There are a lot of distros whose quality beats anything else out there and choosing one over another is a matter of personal taste. But there are also many distros that are sloppily hacked together or are lesser derivatives of a better distro. That’s what I was criticising.

Right, Mr. Linus are quite strait what it is to be incorporated into the kernel, what ever dist requests.

I prefer to work with Finns. Fits me well.

Any comets about systemd? lol!

Regards