Second, I’ve been using Ubuntu for over 5 years now, enjoyed it a lot. Switched to Kubuntu just to try it (didn’t like it as much as Ubunut though). I always felt I could change Ubuntu more to my personal ideas.
As I’m typing, I’m downloading the OpenSuse 11.1 DVD, so I guess I’m almost ready for a new adventure. This time I think I’ll choose for the KDE4.1 again because it does look kinda cool, smooth.
I also believe openSuse looks more mature than Ubuntu or Kubuntu, anyone who can confirm that?
Anyway, I’ll probably install openSuse around mid january because I can’t risk losing data now (I’m in some exams so I really need the laptop now).
But for now, I’ll scan the forum and see if I can learn some things before I install the lovely Green Lizard.
Hi BlackDesign and welcome here, too. I haven’t got so much GNU/Linux experience as you, but I’m using OpenSuse half a year we can say. Current state of mine is that I’m kinnda addicted to this distro and the community is also great. YaST helped me alot from the beginning… but now I’m not afraid of editing configs from shell, it’s a sort of an adventure rotfl! ehm sorry for a bit offtopic. Concerning the graphical environment I prefer currently KDE4.x, but some of the applications aren’t so mature for example holy Amarok2 :\ (I’ll do regression to an older one), on the other side I wanna try Fedora Core 10 with GNOME on the rest of free space. Anyway you won’t regret that you switched for different distribution. Good luck then at exams and prepare for Geeko & Yastie.
Well, still haven’t figured out what that Geeko thingy is actually. Could you fill me in on that?
Music is something imported for me (as I got around 40Gb of music here) so I hope Amarok will do the trick again. Never used the new version of Amarok though, but always loved the other version.
I’m doing it the other way around, I’m using openSUSE and took a peak and both Kubuntu and Ubuntu.
First I tried Kubuntu and I wondered why people would ever pick it over another distrubtion… seemed like a very default KDE4 installation which didn’t receive much care… So I tried Ubuntu, and I must say that it is a lot better than Kubuntu. The differences between the two distro’s are noticeable besides just the desktop environment. Ubuntu I must admit is quite nice it however does not have YaST which makes so many ‘complicated’ things oh so simple. So I went back to openSUSE + KDE4.
In openSUSE both KDE (be it 3.5 or 4.1) and Gnome received pretty much equal loving. They’re both done well and I wouldn’t consider the Gnome implementation to be inferior to Ubuntu’s.
Bit less in the repositories, but most of it can be found in the community repositories or trough webpin.
Howto’s and the likes are sometimes a bit hard to find if you’re clicking around but using a normal search engine with the keyword openSUSE usually gets the needed link. The forums are also a great resource!
If you’re after customisation you might wanna stick to Gnome instead of KDE4 as I personally find KDE4 to allow much less in the form of customisation than gnome at the moment… however it does look better by default so I’m happy with it.
It’s a shame that KDE4 style/themes part on KDE-Look is so empty… as one on the few themes ‘Bespin’ shows that a lot can be done. Guess it just takes time for themes to show up.
Well yes, GNOME was more to my liking on Ubuntu then KDE on Kubuntu but I think I can still switch from KDE to GNOME later on?
The thing about GNOME is, the graphics don’t look as smooth as I want them with a clean install. After some tweaking it all looks great but I still think a system should look cool to begin with to get my attention. (The eye needs something too I think)
Like default fonts where pretty bad sometimes.
When I look at the screenshots of OpenSUSE, I love it from the first glance, so I’m pretty sure, that will work out for me.
This website about OpenSUSE also has a great design, which I really love. When something looks good, a lot of people will feel good using it. (my opinion)
Well, if I’m right the “Geeko thingy” as you said is the mascot of this distribution (a green lizard or in my native language “chameleón” :shame: I would like to recommend good reading for few minutes Gecko Wiki). Btw x2 you’ll find some other handful music players for sure, too. And what for GNOME - Banshee should have good potention answering your needs. Hint for conclusion: Fetching msttffonts from Windows should be enough when you are not satisfied with defaults.
Well I just burned my version to a DVD… First DVD failed, so I tried booting on it (which worked) and then did the CD Check, which failed.
Then went back to Windows to burn another version, that one went well, only after the burning my computer does a check if all the files are the same, then again it gave an error (saying the files on the DVD don’t match the original files).
So again, I booted from the new DVD, did the CD check and this time it said: No Errors. So I believe that will be ok.
Funny thing though, I’m using a Mighty Mouse on my laptop (Dell Inspiron) and for some reason that immediately worked when I was in the install menu. So that gives me good hopes for when I install it after my exams. Other Linux distro’s didn’t immediately recognize that mouse so, that made my day.
Another thing I kinda thought was strange (probably funny if I’m right).
When I boot with the DVD, the bootmenu (where you can choose to install OpenSUSE, Check CD, choose language, etc) is in snowy Christmas style or something? I expected the greenish startup screen…
Is that done by the DVD through checking the time on the computer? (and if its around Christmas, a snowy screen if later the normal green screen?)
Heehey! rotfl! Man you must have funny day at all today That’s strange with your mouse, but concerning that Christmas themed boot loader (I think it’s GRUB) = it is normal… I was excited too when I firstly boot my PC on 24th. of December - look at this thread openSUSE Christmas Greetings? Btw imho you got me laughing lol!.. And I can reassure you’re not mad.
I’ve hopped between Ubuntu and openSUSE for a while now so I think you’ll have fun.
One of the nice things you’ll find withe openSUSE is that it allows you to choose what you want to install instead of installing what it wants and then you have to go and add/remove to your preference.
On the other hand, it means you have less done for you (in applications selection only) and so you have to take more time to make your selections and have an idea of what you WANT to do (and make your selections based on that).
Ubuntu is great for getting people started. OpenSUSE seems the natural “next step” without having to eat command lines for breakfast!
Yeah, sounds great! Ubuntu came with too much stuff I never used so… I don’t mind installing the things I want, that means less junk, more fun.
Every minute I’m reading more and more cool stuff about it, I hope the installation will run smooth. I’ll probably get rid of my Vista and throw OpenSuse on it as the only OS. Maybe later I’ll install XP in VirtualBox or something, don’t quite need M$ for a lot of things.
Hmm nice ideas BlackDesign, my biggest luck was that this is a second PC in our family so I have freedom of managing it on my own, but I still have XP for backup purposes on 13GB partition - and now I realize that every single GB of free space (from my 160GB sata HDD) is worthy so at least if it will be possible to move the /drive_c directory where Wine emulator stores data for win32 apps on this partition it’ll be great. And what for virtualization etc… I wanna try VirtualBox, too - but in my school I saw older VMware Workstation.
Yes, that 's a very liberating feeling! I wasn’t free to fool around too much until I got the extra desktop (for the kids), the file server for backing up and the 2nd hard drive for the laptop (so the primary one my wife and I use is safe)!
I think openSUSE has the best KDE implementation out there, better than Kubuntu by far.
Of course if the system can handle it, virtualization is a great way to go. I was lucky enough to get Crossover when Codeweavers were giving it away for free that one day so that’s my other alternative! lol!
Dragonbite I had to read your reply carefully to understand what was you talking about in your first sentence (that fool around phrase was confusing for me :X), firstly I thought that you made joke based on me - but sorry I must say that cos’ my english knowledge isn’t on higher level and I’m not a native speaker.
We tried Kubuntu on a very old computer with one fellow, but it seemed to be a bit outstanding against Ubuntu or we can say Sabayon shipped with KDE3.x. I cannot explain it at all - kinnda bad feeling like it was given aside (release ver. 7.04).
Hey I’ve got my Crossover license too, I was reading local Czecho-Slovak fansite related to GNU/Linux when I’ve heard about that american challenge… I was lucky, but servers were overloaded and down - I waited till next few days for successful registration. But to be fair I never thought of real use (Wine is sufficient).
My apologies. My “fooling around” is me playing with different Linux distros on a machine and not having to worry about it effecting anybody else. Often English-speaking co-workers have problems understanding me too!
And the closest I have come to speaking Slovak is at my Grandmother’s funeral in Pennsylvania almost 18 years ago (I’m 50% Slovak) and even then I think they were speaking Polish, not Slovakian.
I haven’t had a need to run Crossover until Christmas. My son received a PC Chess game for Christmas and I am going to see if I can get it running on our system through Crossover (or Wine).