thunar video thumnails

I am using 13.1 with XFCE. I have tumbler and ffmpegthumbnailer installed. In Thunar I have Preferences -> Display -> Thumnails set to always. I have removed the ~/.thumbnails folder and logged out/in. I can see thumbnails for everyhing except video files.

Does anyone have suggestions on how to fix this, or suggest a reference or docs.

Any and all help appreciated.

Just a thought,
Have you configured an app association for those types of files? (easiest way to test is to simply click on one of the files and see what app launches to view the file, if any)

Although not in Thunar, I’ve observed if you haven’t created a file association the File Manager sometimes can’t/won’t build the thumbnail.

Guessing,
TSU

File associations are set up, but no video thumbnails.

I have installed PCManFM and it also does not generate thumbnails for videos.

OK,
I did a little experimenting.

Looks like if you have the proper codecs to play the video locally, then the file manager is able to “open” the video and display a thumbnail. You may also need to specify a specific app to open the video.

No codecs for that particular video, then no thumbnail.

Did this testing on 13.1/LXDE/PCmanFM but likely applies to any openSUSE running any Desktop using any File Manager (yeah, in particular generalizing about all File Managers could be YMMV).

HTH,
TSU

On 2014-03-04 19:26, tsu2 wrote:
>
> OK,
> I did a little experimenting.
>
> Looks like if you have the proper codecs to play the video locally, then
> the file manager is able to “open” the video and display a thumbnail.
> You may also need to specify a specific app to open the video.
>
> No codecs for that particular video, then no thumbnail.
>
> Did this testing on 13.1/LXDE/PCmanFM but likely applies to any openSUSE
> running any Desktop using any File Manager (yeah, in particular
> generalizing about all File Managers could be YMMV).

I have a related problem with the shotwell (digital photo organizer),
which on some installations refuses to display video thumbnails.

I found an explanation here:

https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Shotwell/FAQ

+++·································
I upgraded to Shotwell 0.14.x and now I get bad video thumbnails. This
used to work. What gives?

Shotwell uses GStreamer, the standard Linux framework for multimedia
support, to obtain video thumbnails. Shotwell 0.13.1 and earlier were
based on GStreamer 0.1, whereas Shotwell 0.14 uses GStreamer 1.0. These
two versions of GStreamer are substantially different, and they have
different packages of plugins that determine what video formats they
support. In general, GStreamer 1.0 is a step forward over GStreamer 0.1,
but there are some exceptions, mostly having to do with
patent-encumbered video formats. As a result, Shotwell 0.14 may not be
able to generate thumbnails for certain videos that Shotwell 0.13.1
could. Furthermore, video thumbnails generated by Shotwell 0.14 may have
visual problems like ghosting or artifacting. Many of these problems
will disappear as GStreamer 1.0 evolves. If you encounter a situation in
Shotwell 0.14 generates a bad video thumbnail, please report a bug about
it by following the steps above.
·································+±

However, on this system “Thunar” does show the thumbnails, whereas
“shotwell” does not. I do not have “ffmpegthumbnailer” installed at the
moment.

HTH.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

I can play videos locally. I can double-click on the video file in Thunar. It opens in vlc and plays. No thumbnail.

I’ve found this to be true but very specific to vlc not just on openSUSE.
More than likely, vlc stores and accesses its codecs in a proprietary way, not common to the OS in general.

TSU

I can “Open with Mplayer” in Thunar and no thumbnail. Same in PCManFM.

On 2014-03-05 16:06, tsu2 wrote:

> More than likely, vlc stores and accesses its codecs in a proprietary
> way, not common to the OS in general.

The OS probably uses gstreamer.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

I have gstreamer installed.

On 2014-03-05 23:46, rick71 wrote:
> I have gstreamer installed.

From openSUSE or from packman?

It is really difficult to know if gstreamer is completely installed, and
from where, as it is composed by dozens of different files, and there is
no complete list (it grows from release to release). Or I don’t know it.

I have these installed:


cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qa | grep -i gstreamer
gstreamer-0_10-plugin-esd-0.10.31-17.4.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-qt-0.10.3-1.1.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugin-gnomevfs-0.10.36-12.41.x86_64
libQtGStreamer-0_10-0-0.10.3-1.1.x86_64
gstreamer-plugin-gstclutter-2.0.8-3.1.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-good-1.2.3-4.2.x86_64
gstreamer-utils-1.2.3-3.2.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good-0.10.31-17.4.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-utils-unversioned-0.10.36-14.19.x86_64
python-gstreamer-0_10-0.10.22-10.4.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-base-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-bad-1.2.3-5.5.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-ugly-orig-addon-1.2.3-2.1.x86_64
gstreamer-libnice-0.1.4-2.1.4.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-utils-0.10.36-14.19.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-0.10.36-14.19.x86_64
PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.8.11-2.3.1.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad-orig-addon-0.10.23-24.28.x86_64
ekiga-plugins-gstreamer-4.0.1-4.1.4.x86_64
libgstreamer-1_0-0-1.2.3-3.2.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-buzztard-0.6.0-9.37.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-gl-0.10.3-7.1.3.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-farstream-0.2.3-2.1.3.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly-orig-addon-0.10.19-12.3.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-libnice-0.1.4-2.1.4.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad-0.10.23-24.28.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-fluendo_mpegdemux-0.10.71-2.3.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-bad-orig-addon-1.2.3-5.5.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-libav-1.2.3-1.1.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-good-extra-1.2.3-4.2.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base-0.10.36-12.41.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-ugly-1.2.3-2.1.x86_64
libgstreamer-0_10-0-32bit-0.10.36-14.19.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-fluendo_mp3-0.10.18-3.3.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good-extra-0.10.31-17.4.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-fluendo_mpegmux-0.10.4-46.1.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-gl-lang-0.10.3-7.1.3.noarch
gstreamer-1.2.3-3.2.x86_64
banshee-backend-engine-gstreamer-2.6.1-2.4.1.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly-lang-0.10.19-12.3.noarch
phonon-backend-gstreamer-0_10-4.7.1-2.12.1.x86_64
libgstreamer-0_10-0-0.10.36-14.19.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ffmpeg-0.10.13-2000.3.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly-0.10.19-12.3.x86_64
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad-lang-0.10.23-24.28.noarch

But then there are a fe more with just “gst” on the name, more difficult
to track:


typelib-1_0-GstVideo-1_0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgsttag-1_0-0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgstrtsp-1_0-0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgstpbutils-1_0-0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
typelib-1_0-Gst-1_0-1.2.3-3.2.x86_64
typelib-1_0-ClutterGst-2_0-2.0.8-3.1.x86_64
libgstbuzztard0-0.6.0-9.37.x86_64
libgstapp-0_10-0-32bit-0.10.36-12.41.x86_64
typelib-1_0-GstInterfaces-0_10-0.10.36-12.41.x86_64
typelib-1_0-GstTag-1_0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
typelib-1_0-GstPbutils-1_0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgstcodecparsers-1_0-0-1.2.3-5.5.x86_64
libgstallocators-1_0-0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgstgl-0_10-1-0.10.3-7.1.3.x86_64
typelib-1_0-Gst-0_10-0.10.36-14.19.x86_64
libgstaudio-1_0-0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgstmpegts-1_0-0-1.2.3-5.5.x86_64
libgstapp-1_0-0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgstinterfaces-0_10-0-32bit-0.10.36-12.41.x86_64
libgstvdp-0_10-23-0.10.23-24.28.x86_64
libgstphotography-0_10-23-0.10.23-24.28.x86_64
libgstbasevideo-0_10-23-0.10.23-24.28.x86_64
libgstfft-1_0-0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgstapp-0_10-0-0.10.36-12.41.x86_64
libgstegl-1_0-0-1.2.3-5.5.x86_64
libgstriff-1_0-0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgstrtp-1_0-0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgstsignalprocessor-0_10-23-0.10.23-24.28.x86_64
libgstphotography-1_0-0-1.2.3-5.5.x86_64
libgstbasecamerabinsrc-1_0-0-1.2.3-5.5.x86_64
libgstbasevideo-1_0-0-1.0.10-2.5.4.x86_64
libgstinterfaces-0_10-0-0.10.36-12.41.x86_64
libclutter-gst-2_0-0-2.0.8-3.1.x86_64
gst123-0.3.3-1.9.x86_64
libgstvideo-1_0-0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
typelib-1_0-GstAudio-1_0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgstsdp-1_0-0-1.2.3-2.3.x86_64
libgstcodecparsers-0_10-23-0.10.23-24.28.x86_64


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

From Packman… but I don’t have nearly as many packages installed as you.

On 2014-03-06 03:26, rick71 wrote:
> From Packman… but I don’t have nearly as many packages installed as
> you.

I don’t know which of them are really necessary. Many will be
dependencies from others. And I found that I had some missing packages:
I had xine-ui from opensuse, vlc-cocdecs was missing…


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

I’ve also been conversing with a guy on the xfce forum. He had the same problem with 2 ubuntu installs, but not with arch that used tumbler 1.3. He compiled tumbler 1.3 from source, and the video thumbnails showed. I wonder when tumbler 1.3 will show up in opensuse.

On 2014-03-06 20:36, rick71 wrote:

> I’ve also been conversing with a guy on the xfce forum. He had the same
> problem with 2 ubuntu installs, but not with arch that used tumbler 1.3.
> He compiled tumbler 1.3 from source, and the video thumbnails showed. I
> wonder when tumbler 1.3 will show up in opensuse.

But it has to be something else, because I do see the thumbnails in my
Thunar.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

You are seeing thumbnails for video files?

It will show everything from ~/.thumbnails even without tumbler installed.
As soon as you rename that folder, it will show nothing but icons.
I think there was some kind of mplayer-plugin that generated thumbs for all videos, can’t remember the exact name.

I do have mplayer installed, but I don’t see an mpalyer plugin

There’s a link, I used it with konqueror kde3 to generate thumbs.
However, I’ve no idea about tumbler issue, I don’t really use it because it used to have a bad habit of locking drives so I could not umount.