Thumbleweed, -testing image 20150311.

It’s early to even think of openSUSE13.3. But…I thought so why not test Tumbleweed (factory/Tumbleweed)? I did in a VirtualBox VM (running on a 13.1 server, VirtualBox ver 4.3.20 r96996) . I set it up with 1 kernel, 2GB Ram, 128MB GPU Ram… Bridged NIC (eth1)etc.

I did it for 2 reasons,

  • Check if Libreoffice 4.41 has fixed the problem/bug I had in Libreoffice 4.35(openSUSE13.2) about make reporting in Libreoffice Base.

-Will upcoming digikam 5.x pick up the functionality of(remote) mysql support again?

After start installation, I let it run:

http://www.jodo.nu/pic/pic2/thumbleweed1.jpeg
What?

After booting up Tumbleweed whit GUI/KDE appeared and checked versions:

http://www.jodo.nu/pic/pic2/thumbleweed2.jpeg

4.60 digikam. Ok. Or not. Still running 4.40 for remote mysql support.

regards

I have been doing monthly test installs of Tumbleweed. I normally use the 64-bit DVD image for this (but from a USB flash drive). Thus far, the installs have been going pretty well.

I’m not sure why you had that opening screen. Maybe it has to do with your VM setup. My test installs have been on real hardware.

Hello!
Yes I agree. I did my best to set up the VM based of the experince I have with VM. . I didn’t suffer on running the setup at cli/yast at “light mode”.

I manage. I did get the GUI after reboot. My concerns was about, Libreoffice (haven’t test yet) and digikam.

My post was not to complain about Tumbleweed. Just to share some of my experience.

regards

This is actually an easy fix. It did only start recently (the 2-5 snapshot worked fine). If at the grub menu you pick the VESA option at the bottom and set it to an actual value, the GUI will work correctly. It’s something with the autodetect on VBox that stopped working.

Actually, I went back and checked, and the 2015-2-5 image no longer works either, so it is more likely an issue with the changes in VBox (big surprise there). Either way, just hit F3 at the boot menu and pick an actual resolution and it will work as expected.

Hello:

I am trying from Factory until the current isos of tumbleweed and i all work well.

Lately the tested on Vbox and also are worked . Only comment that there is a fault that occurs in the majority of the isos, in the summary proposal , occur three faults, that keeps me select the software , but I accept and i get on with the installation and it works well.

The software i chose after installing .

Greetings

PD. I still have to prove the isos of :

openSUSE-Tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20150309-Media.is

openSUSE-Tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20150311-Media.iso

openSUSE-Tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20150312-Media.iso

http://paste.opensuse.org/images/67863996.jpg

http://paste.opensuse.org/images/67792011.jpghttp://paste.opensuse.org/images/31513635.jpg

Not only VBox.
I can reproduce the problem on real hardware too, by starting the install with “nomodeset”.

There might be a general problem with the fbdev driver (which is normally used when modesetting is disabled, and as the installation CD does not include the vboxvideo driver, it is used when you install inside VirtualBox too) at the moment. It seems to not be able to determine the resolution or something.

PS: I can still reproduce this with the latest snapshot’s NET install ISO.
If it works now with the full DVD, it may be that the vboxvideo driver is included there and works now again. It didn’t work for a week or so, because the version in the openSUSE packages was incompatible with the new xorg-x11-server.

And where do you get “Factory” from?
If you mean http://download.opensuse.org/factory, this should be exactly the same ISOs AFAIK.

I took mikrios to be a non-native English speaker who got his tenses wrong. So I read the quoted line as if in the past tense instead of as written.

Ah, so this supposedly means that it worked until recently? Makes sense, AFAIK this issue did only appear recently, about two weeks ago I think. (but again, it’s unrelated to any changes in VirtualBox, and not even restricted to VirtualBox)

I read it as “it works well with the current Factory ISOs” and so he is using those instead of Tumbleweed…

And a side-note:
It shouldn’t make a difference to the installed system if the text mode installer is used instead of the graphical one. And on most hardware the problem should not occur anyway I think.
So I don’t see this as a grave problem. Although it would definitely nice to have it working again… :wink:

Regarding the errors in the last screenshots: I haven’t seen that, but then I haven’t really tried a fresh install recently (I just booted the NET install CD a few times).
But you probably should do as the message tells you and file a bug report. Especially if it still happens with the next snapshots…

I retried the 0205 NET iso and it had the same problem, so it’s been going on longer (although, to be fair, I thought that one had worked in VB before the newest update).

But I’m more surprised openQA hasn’t been catching this. I though they tested the images in a VM of some sort, which would default to the same video drivers.

Might be.
I didn’t notice it until a few days ago, but I didn’t try to install Tumbleweed in the last months.

I did notice that the vboxvideo driver doeesn’t work any more with the latest xorg-x11-server and submitted a fixed package on Feb. 26th.
Then I heard about the installer problem, and thought it might be related to the “broken” vboxvideo driver (the new package only got part of Tumbleweed with the 20150309 snapshot). Unfortunately this is a different problem though, and not at all related to VirtualBox as mentioned.

But I’m more surprised openQA hasn’t been catching this. I though they tested the images in a VM of some sort, which would default to the same video drivers.

Well, they don’t use VirtualBox for testing, but rather KVM I think.
AFAIK the VMs run with the cirrus video driver. There have been problems with that as well not too long ago, but they have been fixed.

Good!

I tested today with the same setup (VirtualBox VM (running on a 13.1 server, VirtualBox ver 4.3.20 r96996) . I set it up with 1 kernel, 2GB Ram, 128MB GPU Ram… Bridged NIC (eth1)etc.) And openSUSE-Tumbleweed-KDE-Live-x86_64-Snapshot20150312-Media.iso

Working fine to boot up with GUI and, - I was smiling when I was was seeing the check-box for “Enable Snapshots” in root partitioning using BtrFS :). There is still hope!

No I didn’t go trow the whole installation, saving some fun for the weekend.

http://www.jodo.nu/pic/pic2/snapshot48.jpeg

regards

Thanks .

If it is correct in the past, long before exiting the 13.2 .

The error is maintained in the isos that are pulled; but I still have to try the latest ( 3 in total ) .

The tests have been done in hardware and in virtual mode ( and the error is the same ) .

I have not been past the problem that you have. All the systems installed in uefi, gpt and by default BTRFS, for both the root ’ / ’ as for the ’ /home’ .

If I apologize for my poor English (sorry) .

Tested the version: openSUSE-tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20150312-Media.iso .

Same error . Perhaps that is why i use BTRFS in ’ /home’ and ’ / ', the end result is correct.

Tumbleweed, VirtualBox 4.34 .24_OSE r9876 : harddisk: 64 to 74 Gb - ram: 12Gb, Efi , graphics 128Gb, 2 cpu cores and ICH9 chipset (run in /dev/sdb is a ssd KINGSTON_SH103S3 ) .

And the host is :


X79-PRO:~ # inxi -Fz
System:    Host: X79-PRO Kernel: 3.19.1-2.gc0946e9-desktop x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: N/A
           Distro: openSUSE 20150316 (Tumbleweed)
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P9X79 PRO v: Rev 1.xx Bios: American Megatrends v: 4701 date: 05/07/2014
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7-3820 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 10240 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 5700 MHz 1: 2129 MHz 2: 1666 MHz 3: 2450 MHz 4: 1620 MHz 5: 1245 MHz 6: 1419 MHz
           7: 1228 MHz 8: 2299 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GK107 [GeForce GTX 650]
           Display Server: X.org 1.17.1 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,nv,vesa)
           tty size: 191x47 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA GK107 HDMI Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Intel C600/X79 series High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.19.1-2.gc0946e9-desktop
Network:   Card: Intel 82579V Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
           IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 5120.9GB (46.0% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD1002FAEX size: 1000.2GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: KINGSTON_SH103S3 size: 120.0GB
           ID-3: /dev/sdc model: MARVELL_Raid_VD size: 4000.6GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 41G used: 18G (50%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda3
           ID-2: /tmp size: 41G used: 18G (50%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda3
           ID-3: /home size: 890G used: 696G (79%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda4
           ID-4: swap-1 size: 2.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 23.0C mobo: 25.0C gpu: 26.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 675000 mobo: 675000 fan-1: 796 fan-3: 0 fan-4: 0 fan-5: 0
Info:      Processes: 365 Uptime: 4:35 Memory: 1365.6/64372.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.18 

Thanks and greetings

PD. downloading now : openSUSE-tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20150316-Media.iso

FYI, the reason for the installer starting in text mode only in VirtualBox (but also on real hardware when you specify “nomodeset”) has been identified and fixed now.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=932319

Actually, it was a bug in Xorg that prevented the “vesa” driver (which is used as fallback when KMS is not supported, like in VirtualBox) from working at all. When you selected a particular resolution at the boot menu (or added the “vga=xxx” option), then fbdev is used instead, which worked all the time.