this users mandriva to suse migration experiences.....

Dear Boardsters

This is my 1st post. I was getting tired of mandriva’s hopeless multimedia support. For example I wanted to DL vids from youtube and convert them to a format that the devede program could process into a useable dvd. Alas it seldom worked and results were variable. Not only this, the sound never worked properly. Sound is provided by a Sony home theatre amp in the lounge and display is HDMI to the Sony bravia TV. The sound is piped using toslink. Both vid and sound come through the wall to my server rack in the next room - my man lab :slight_smile:

Now please don’t get me wrong. This post is not a complaint although several of my comments may appear that way. I’m simply addressing as many of the issues I can think of in a dispassionate manner.

The system is an HP DL580 G4. 4cpu, 16 cores, 12g RAM, 0.6tbHDD RAID 0 1000baseTX 9000mtu. Cound is ctxfi (creative Xfi) and display is managed by Matrox parhelia 256PCIx. It’s in the rack in the man-cave because it’s noisy. All my other 'puters are in teh rack also, with one exception; I have a Raspberry PI in the lounge connected to a 1tb USB disk. I dunno what I’m going to do with it yet.

What I am finding during my migration is as follows. There is no way to choose the initial users ID#, group ID name and group number. For compatibility with my other systems I want the first user ID 1000 and a private group also 1000 in addition to the '‘users’ group.

That said; the installation was a breeze, the information presented about the system has been revelationary and amounts to the best installer I’ve ever seen in over 20 years of using Linux.

Packages are in RPM which I like. urpmi is now replaced with zypper and I can’t find various softwares I like using such as HOWTO’s, arp-scan. Packaing repositories support information in like rocking horse poo - rare. I can’t find help on where to go to increase the range on source repositories…yet.

The yast program is impressive. Like MS’s control panel on steroids. I may now be able to dispense with webmin in favour of yast.

Back to the system, more to follow.

Thank you from
Peter

This is not a request for help, which is OK. But, perhaps this should be in the CHit Chat forum instead. Please hold off for 10 minutes any comments until it is moved to the correct forum.

Thank You,

On 2013-08-11 23:36, peterlowrie wrote:

I don’t know if the thread is going to be moved or not, an hour and a
half has passed. I’ll answer only this technical point.

> What I am finding during my migration is as follows. There is no way to
> choose the initial users ID#, group ID name and group number. For
> compatibility with my other systems I want the first user ID 1000 and a
> private group also 1000 in addition to the '‘users’ group.

Not during install, but later. Let the system create the first user,
which will have UID 1000. Then, with the system running, use YaST to
create or change users and groups to the xID you want. If there are a
few you might want to script it.

Notice that YaST sets the default group for all users to be ‘users’, but
you can create a group per user and have it as the default group of the
user. Just that not automatically.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

Thread moved to chit chat and opened for consumption…

On 08/12/2013 04:36 PM, malcolmlewis wrote:
> Packaing repositories support information in like rocking horse poo -
>rare.

not rare, you just have not yet discovered where to look, try:

http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/part.reference.software.html
for the “quick start” on package management…

and maybe here:
http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Software_Management
or
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:YaST


dd
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Complaints

Well if you have issues with openSUSE there is always Mageia.
ROSA is out there too but I feel its too bloated.

As is typical I shot my wad prematurely. I found some software repositories just after posting the article.

Thanks for that.

What I’m looking for in an OS is it’s vintage and the tools provided to keep the system up-to-date and the tools to keep the system maintained. I was always impressed by manriva’s drak

but now I’ve fount yast I don’t think I’ll be going back…Hey, it rhymes :-}

The next thing it to see if there are tools for setting up X windows.

Peter

> peterlowrie;2578592 Wrote:

>> What I am finding during my migration is as follows. There is no way to
>> choose the initial users ID#, group ID name and group number. For
>> compatibility with my other systems I want the first user ID 1000 and a
>> private group also 1000 in addition to the '‘users’ group.

You have to let the system create the first user as it wishes, which
will be UID 1000, and group: users. After the system is installed, you
go again into yast users&groups setup, and change it if needed.

Then, the following users you create you can choose the UID manually,
and also the default group. You can have a group per user if you wish,
just that YaST will not do it automatically for you. But you can create
your own scripts to do facilitate things your own way :wink:

(beware of useradd, read the man first: it is different than on other
linuxes).


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

Actually, the way you worded that was quite badly.

The file system does not create the user account or the group ID. That is done through the install scripts. Otherwise you can added it manually. Gentoo has good documentation on that.

On 08/13/2013 04:46 AM, Jonathan R wrote:
> the way you worded that was quite badly.

looks clear and correct to me.


dd
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Complaints

On 2013-08-13 04:46, Jonathan R wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2578878 Wrote:

>> You have to let the system create the first user as it wishes, which

> Actually, the way you worded that was quite badly.
>
> The file system does not create the user account or the group ID.

I never said “file system”. Please read again.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))