This machine - HP Compaq CMT dc7700 out windows 10, Leap in it's place.

This is the ‘fdiisk -l’ for this machine. It is legacy BIOS.

/dev/sda is on a PCI card
/dev/sdb has Windows 7 and Windows 10
I would like to put Leap15.3 in where Windows 10 is. Possible? without having to reinstall WIndows 7( I can’t find my Win 7 install DVD) ?

Also how do I put the Partition table entries are in disk order?

**Disk /dev/sda: 149.05 GiB, 160041885696 bytes, 312581808 sectors**
Disk model: WDC WD1600AAJB-0
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xfb30b87c

**Device****Boot****    Start****      End****  Sectors**** Size****Id****Type**
/dev/sda1            2048  16779263  16777216    8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda2        16779264 100665343  83886080   40G 83 Linux
/dev/sda3  *    100665344 312578047 211912704  101G 83 Linux

**Disk /dev/sdb: 465.76 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors**
Disk model: ST500NM0011      
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00000001

**Device****Boot****    Start****      End****  Sectors****  Size****Id****Type**
/dev/sdb1  *           64    204863    204800   100M  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb2          208845 398685104 398476260   190G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb3       566467358 976769069 410301712 195.6G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb4       398685105 566467356 167782252    80G  f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sdb5       398685168 566467356 167782189    80G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

Partition table entries are not in disk order.

man fdisk
There’s an advanced menu option to write a new table with entries in logical order, exactly what you want. Note that grub.cfg and/or fstab may need to be adjusted to match the changes; likely only grub.cfg, if all your fstab entries are by UUID and/or LABEL. I don’t think there’s any tool made to automatically adjust either one to a current partition table.

I am not sure why you want to change that order, it might make things much more difficult.

But you also did not explain where is what. There are four Windows partitions on sdb to be used by two different Windows versions (if I understand correct). But what is where? Looks important to me, because the partitions(s) with Windows 7 should be kept (again, if I understand correct).

After that you will know which of the now existing partition(s) are available to accomodate openSUSE. And then you should decide how many partitions you need for that openSUSE. And then you can try to repartition. Which might be difficult or more difficult because of the extended partition in the MBR/MS-DOS partitioned disk.

And there is something strange in your CODE section. The command (and prompts) are missing. The headers are not in line with the rest of the columns. How is that possible?

I can re- submit the ‘fdisk -l’ table with everything down to the next entry prompt if that will help. Sorry it is not there, I did some copy and paste to make the CODE shorter.

In short words, I want to put a Leap 15.3 where Win 10, is and keep Win 7. I only use Windows to write music to my iPod, and do not need that large bloated Win 10.
And asking if possible without having my Win 7 install media(DVD:.

Of course it’s possible, but with the data provided, we can’t provide any detail on how.

I suggest you instead shrink Win10 to a minimal useful size and keep it instead of keeping the unsupported old release. It’s really little problem if you only update it, like I do with Win10, using isos downloaded via OS and keeping the ethernet cable unplugged while booted to it. Once the shrink is done, delete Win7 stuff and use the freespace for 15.3. I can’t remember the last time I used Win for anything besides updating itself. It was at least 2 years ago for my Logitech remote, could be closer to 4. Both mine are on 50G partitions with 20G or so freespace.

Do you really think you answered with this my question on where (which partitions) Windows 7 is and on where Windows 10?

I guess I am at a complete loss as to what you wanted. Your post was quite long, and I assumed you wanted all the prompts and things for the ‘f disk -l’ CLI.
If you need more, let me know! I will be glad to provide lt!

To be more precise about Windows locations, Win 7 & Win 10 are both on a SATA drive.
Leap 15.3 is on a PATA drive connected to the PC via a PCI card. Not actually a RAID situation.

EDIT>>> SORRY, After re-reading your original response I understand more of what you want(Ed).

what data do you need? Tell me and I will do my newby Linux best to get it.

I really don’t want Win 10 on this machine. It is on my laptop, and I update it 3 or 4 times a year. It is getting to be as bad as apple about what can be deleted.
And Win 7 is way faster getting to iTunes to update my iPod(still haven’t found anyone that has Linux something that will work with my iPod Touch.

Disk /dev/sdb: 465.76 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Disklabel type: dos

Device	 Boot  	    Start       End   Sectors   Size Id		   Type
/dev/sdb1  *           64    204863    204800   100M  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb2          208845 398685104 398476260   190G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb3       566467358 976769069 410301712 195.6G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb5       398685168 566467356 167782189    80G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

is very little useful information. It would show a lot of useful information if it was annotated by describing the content on each (real) partition, like so:

Device	 Boot  	    Start       End   Sectors   Size Id		   Type
/dev/sdb1  *           64    204863    204800   100M  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT - ESP
/dev/sdb2          208845 398685104 398476260   190G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT - Win 7 system
/dev/sdb3       566467358 976769069 410301712 195.6G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT - Win10 system
/dev/sdb5       398685168 566467356 167782189    80G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT - data

IMHO I had five (5) different paragraphs there. You only answered to the last one. Can’t you organise yourself and answer and/or comment on those in the sequence 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5?

That is no information at all to on which partition is what.
We are NOT interested in why you want to keep Windows 7 and want to remove Windows 10. That is your decision.
We are also not interested if those disk are revolving clockwise or not.
We want to know where is the Windows 7 you want to keep and where is the Windows 10 you want to remove. When you do not tell us, neither @mrmazda, nor I, nor anybody else can give you any factual advice on what to do.

Maybe try to tell you in a non-Linux (well in fact non computer background) way.
You have four boxes, lids closed, no labels except the numbers 1 - 4. You say: there is books there and there is bottles there, now I want to keep the books and throw away the bottles, what should I do?
Wouldn’t then the first question be: where are the books and where are the bottles?

OK, ya’ll did a good job of doing what you were asking me to do. THANKS! Now I know!!

But so far I have only been told WHAT I DO WRONG! and NOT A THING about an answer to my original question.

BUT> I dug out a SATA 160GB HDD that I an put leap on, Hopefully transfer some things form the PATA HDD to it, AND reduce Win10 to absolute minimum and forget it is there.
Except when I turn the machine on, and GRUB will still show the Leap and Windows 10 boot menus.
If I select Windows 10, that it will give me ANOTHER menu with Win10 and Win7 boot options.

My question now is SHOULD I take the PATA drive out of the system until I get Leap installed on that empty SATA drive?
Then put the PATA plugs back in, and hopefully be able to salvage some of my personal things.
Still Wondering IN the Dark user.

I wish someone would proofread what you write before you send it. There’s too much ambiguity in your last post for me to take the time to try to respond. I’m not clairvoyant.

I concur with @mrmazda. We apparently live in two complete different worlds which makes coomunication difficult when not impossible. Added to that the difference in time zone that seems to make one question-answer session at least 24 hours which makes that we now after 6 days are no further then your fists post:

On which we questioned: where is the Windows 10 you want to replace and where is the Windows 7 you want to keep?

Very simple questions IMHO. But alas, you were dwelling upon why you want to keep Windows 7 and want to drop Windows 10, which we did not ask for. You also had some extensive story about the underlying hardware, which we also did not ask for. All spoiling our time.

I also give up and will leave it to other members to accept the challenge.


NOT really surprised at either answer.
They are what I expect from you two.
Sorry I can’t be perfect as you two are, nor can I be the experienced Linux user and forum poster you expect of everyone that comes here looking for help.
HELP you don’t seem to want to even attempt IF the post IS NOT TO YOUR PERFECTION EXPECTATIONS!

And there was not a challenge offered! Just a question, that is all.
And IMO,the only ‘challenge’ here is @hcvv making a challenge to himself to waste time trying to teach me to be as perfect as he is! An impossible task, I assume because he is a quitter!

@hcvv, And it is FIRST POST, not FIST POST. So I’m not the only one that is imperfect with my posts, and needs postings proofread, or spell checked or grammar checked.

Bye now, ya’ll can go find someone else to beat up on!

They are the two users primarily trying to assist here in good faith and as volunteers. The challenge when working remotely from each other is to get the required definitive information in order to provide meaningful answers, or decide next steps. Speculative answers may not lead to the desired outcome Bill.

Bye now, ya’ll can go find someone else to beat up on!

Your choice. We’ll happily close this thread out if you no longer want to pursue your request for assistance with this.