This forum is............

[RANT]If I had a grandmother, and she was interested in running a forum on, say, embroidery, I am sure that I could teach her how to use vbulletin software so that her users could:

  1. auto-log on
  2. not have to use a courier font last seen before SHE was born
  3. …without scrolling to the bottom of the page and selecting a new style EVERY time they went to the site.

As this site is under the auspices of one of the most powerful software companies in the world, is it too much to ask that when I come to the site I don’t have to “LOG ON” every time, and “CHOOSE MY STYLE”
FFS!
[/RANT]

Hmmm, if this is a rant, i am obligated by the T & C’s of the forum to move your post to the soapbox section, So that is where you will find your post

Andy

Strange - I don’t ever remember seeing a courier font on this site. Perhaps it’s your browser settings that are wrong.

As I have done (in vain) before, I support the remark on loosing your preferences when you are not loged in. When you log out (on purpose or because the forum software seems fit) all cookies are removed. When you then go to a forum page it is displayed in the default style instead of the prefered one. The default one is not literaly courier, but to me the result is almost as bad.

Why can’t I have my preferred style and my timezone in cookies that stay on my system even when I am not loged in. No security involved IMHO?

Haven’t you heard there’s a world recession going on?

Cutbacks have to start somewhere you know!

I heard of another forum where only half the page is displayed due to cutbacks! We should think ourselves lucky here ;).

Reminds me of an old friend’s Mother when I was young, she would unplug the phone from the wall because she believed it was costing her money when plugged in :sarcastic:.

rotfl!

A friend of mine set up a PC for his elderly father so that he could keep in touch with grandchildren etc. He spent some time explaining Email and the internet, google etc. A couple of days later he gets a phone call from Papa:
“Wonderful this internet thing, David… Tell me, is it open at the weekend?”

Having to log on every single time really, really sucks. The rest I can can live with, I think. :slight_smile:

Yes Would there be a sort of command line switch to add to the URL in the bookmark so that it opened in the correct style? Or even to auto login?I still find it beyond belief that every other vBulletin forum allows this, and what is supposed to be a fairly technical forum cannot.

Hahaha, nice one, I’m still laughing ten minutes after reading it rotfl!.

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:26:01 +0000, VorianGrey wrote:

> Having to log on every single time really, really sucks. The rest I can
> can live with, I think. :slight_smile:

I don’t have to log on every single time, but I use NNTP. :wink:

Jim

Jeez now the ******** won’t let me log in, I have had to open Chrome to do so. When I go to the LOG IN at the top, it loops back to the “viewing as a guest page, please login”>:(>:(>:(

and as for this piece of brilliance

openSUSE: Login

What form at the bottom???

THERE IS NO FORM!

At least when I use it in Firefox…
In Chrome, it goes to the last viewed page.

> I don’t have to log on every single time, but I use NNTP. :wink:

NNTP ftw!

So I have to change my whole connection set up for this one forum???/

Well, to be honest you don’t need to use the forum at all :stuck_out_tongue:

  • wakou wrote, On 03/03/2009 05:56 PM:

> ‘openSUSE: Login’ (http://tinyurl.com/bextby)
>
> What form at the bottom???
>
> THERE IS NO FORM!

I don’t get it. What’s the problem? The URL takes me to a thread “Re: IDE in BIOS”

Uwe

  • wakou wrote, On 03/03/2009 06:06 PM:

> So I have to change my whole connection set up for this one forum???/

No. All they are saying is that you can use a different client (NNTP rather than a web browser) if you want to bypass the password problem.
You could also let firefox store the password, and I can imagine there’s a plugin/addon whatever which will autologin you to this site if the authentication is really that annyoing to you.

Uwe

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:56:02 +0000, wakou wrote:

> Jeez now the ******** won’t let me log in, I have had to open Chrome to
> do so. When I go to the LOG IN at the top, it loops back to the “viewing
> as a guest page, please login”>>>

Clear your cookies and browser cache, then try again.

Jim

Done that Jim, worked, once…
Then back to the loop again, won’t let me log in
I have to clear cookies every visit?
To Uwe, I have asked firefox to remember password,
it does, but ONLY WHEN THE SITE ALLOWS ME TO THE LOG IN SCREEN.
The link, when I am locked out, takes me not to the IDE/BIOS thread but to a page which helpfully asks me to fill in the form at the bottom. There is no form.
It just seems shoddy in the extreme that one of the biggest names in software would allow such a creaky set-up to carry it’s name on the internet, especially as it is a portal which for many will be their first encounter with Novell. Also, many of the contributors here have a good deal of expertise in the computer field, and they have to endure this shambles

@Wakou

How to Keep a Skin:
Log in
Go to your “User Control Panel” (Location? Basic skin: upper left, Default skin: upper right)
On the left side under “Your Control Panel” select “Edit Options”
At the bottom there’s an option for “Forum Skin”, select the skin you want.
Click “Save Changes”

Fonts are subjective but, if you have a perferred font for reading websites, you can have your browser display pages with the font of your choosing. I use Liberation Sans myself.

As for auto-login, I guess choice is always good. But with browsers able to remember passwords it’s not too much trouble to click login, type the first character or two of your username, and have the rest fill-in. If this functionality is not working on your set-up it’s likely a configuration problem or bug on your computer since the site itself does not provide nor inhibit that functionality.

Lastly, the link you provided points to a reply box for the thread “Re: IDE in BIOS” as buckesfeld mentioned.

If you are looking for a link to the forum login page try this one: openSUSE Forum Login

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:16:01 +0000, wakou wrote:

> Done that Jim, worked, once…
> Then back to the loop again, won’t let me log in I have to clear cookies
> every visit?
> To Uwe, I have asked firefox to remember password, it does, but -ONLY
> WHEN THE SITE ALLOWS ME TO THE LOG IN SCREEN-.

Start by going to the login screen, then. I use the Novell Login pretty
much every day (I work for Novell myself in the training department, so
it’s a rare day that I’m not logging into a Novell website in one way or
another). While I work for Novell, the opinions I state are my own (I
have no affiliation with the community or the IS&T department, so I can’t
speak for them).

The objective is that customers visiting Novell’s family of websites have
a single login and password to remember. I can’t tell you how many
companies I visit who I have to have multiple logins to access their
site. One (which shall remain nameless), I have 4 different logins to
handle different roles. That’s just insane.

Novell’s background is in systems and identity management, and a single
credential set is a huge advantage for customers. Yes, that does mean
that different areas of the website have less-than-optimal timeouts, but
it is to protect customer information. For example, customers logins
give access to contract renewal information (if the person in question is
so entitled). You wouldn’t want that information to be accessible to
just anyone just because you forgot to log out of your machine.

Understand - the login you use for these forums provides access to a LOT
of other information, including personal information. Your Novell
certification information, for example, containing personal information
(address, e-mail, certifications held, etc) is accessed using the same
login.

The other sites you mention - kde.org, for example - don’t have these
types of security requirements so the implementation is far, far simpler.

Using a single set of credentials to login to all Novell-integrated
websites has significant benefits, both on the systems admin side as well
as on the customer usability side. You probably only use a fraction of
the site, so you don’t see the benefits firsthand. The overwhelming
majority of Novell’s customers do use more than just OSF, so this
provides a huge benefit.

> The link, when I am
> locked out, takes me not to the IDE/BIOS thread but to a page which
> helpfully asks me to fill in the form at the bottom. There is no form.
> It just seems shoddy in the extreme that one of the biggest names in
> software would allow such a creaky set-up to carry it’s name on the
> internet, especially as it is a portal which for many will be their
> first encounter with Novell. Also, many of the contributors here have a
> good deal of expertise in the computer field, and they have to endure
> this shambles

If the forums were the only thing the login was used for, that wouldn’t
really be an issue. However, the login is used for many other things on
the novell.com websites, so security is handled in a consistent manner
across all the websites.

You can certainly pre-populate the form for the “Novell Login” with your
information. I do that myself on systems that aren’t exposed to people
other than myself.

This has been discussed many, many times before.

Jim