They called it the "Battle Royale"

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What’s your opinions;)
TECH SOURCE FROM BOHOL: Battle Royale: Ubuntu 8.04 vs. openSUSE 11

Hope this is not childish. :expressionless:

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Nice little read. Thanks for posting.:open_mouth:

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> What’s your opinions;)
> ‘TECH SOURCE FROM BOHOL: Battle Royale: Ubuntu 8.04 vs. openSUSE 11’
> (http://tinyurl.com/6yfsw4)
>
> Hope this is not childish. :expressionless:

Interesting, but I still don’t see why there’s this love affair with apt.
Just don’t get it. Personally haven’t had any dependency issues in
SuSE…ever. Use a good repository and switch if you run into dependency
issues. Seems to work every time. I don’t think it’s YaST causing the
dependency issues, I think it’s the repos. Of course Ubuntu installs
faster, it loads less packages, so don’t see that as a real victory.
Ease of use of course depends on your usage, a power user without any
power in the interface not going to find it easy or fun when he has
to ‘fix’ the defaults. I think it’s time for desktops to offer more granular
settings rather than introducing complexity to those that don’t want it and
removing it for those that need it.

How about a simple menu after you select GNOME or KDE with radios for:

Distro default GNOME/KDE configuration (Basic User)
Distro Power User (Desktop with advanced features enabled)
Vendor default (Desktop as provided by KDE/GNOME)

One final note, this was a GNOME vs. GNOME comparison.
KDE + Ubuntu = Epic Fail.

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Read http://pho.ucsd.edu/rjhala/papers/opium.pdf.
APT fails to find existing solutions to the dependency problem in 0.61% of studied cases. Meanwhile OPIUM (and ZYpp/openSUSE, it uses the same idea) are know to find the solution in 100% of cases. ZYpp never fails… I don’t say that, are maths.

About repositories quality. A “smart check --all” will list any missing dependency in any of the installed repos. Run it… all (officials, Packman and OBSs) repositories are of a great quality.

So… just ignore any comment that includes “rpm hell”, it’s just people that still don’t know the difference between DPKG and APT.

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My personal experience so far, however flawed an argument, is openSUSE has run well on all of the hardware it has tried when Ubuntu failed.

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I actually now find zypper is much easier to use than apt, it has a nice search feature, and will fill in package names when you don’t give it the complete (and in my opinion stupid) filename, ie package-some-silly_version.6.2.5.7o8!

I never found a search capability using apt, but then again I tend to miss most things :D.

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  • dragonbite wrote, On 12/10/2008 03:46 PM:
    > My personal experience so far, however flawed an argument, is openSUSE
    > has run well on all of the hardware it has tried when Ubuntu failed.

…and vice versa :slight_smile:

Uwe

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Maybe someone has to post a link of this thread in that site.lol!

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thanks for sharing, conram. it is so funny, that for the opensuse vs. ubuntu debate there are so many blog posts. and none of them conclusive.

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> thanks for sharing, conram. it is so funny, that for the opensuse vs.
> ubuntu debate there are so many blog posts. and none of them conclusive.
>
>

Kinda like those KDE vs. GNOME threads. :slight_smile:

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Sounds like those are the big guns. and you can forget the others?:open_mouth:

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No problem
Yes none conclusive, it is like watching the soap opera “days of our lives” for 20 yearslol!