I don’t know if you are aware that acrobat reader will not be available
in 13.1, because adobe will no longer provide security updates for
Linux, apparently, and the openSUSE security team has thus decided to
remove it.
However, some of us need acroread for several reasons. Two important
ones are that alternatives do not fully support XFA Forms (no
javascript), and that signature verification doesn’t work.
There are two long threads on the factory mail list about this, for
those interested (remember that the people taking the decisions do not
read here).
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
On 2013-11-08 03:36, nrickert wrote:
>
> The last time I use acrobat reader was in opensuse 11.4, and I have not
> missed it at all. So I have no concerns about this.
>
> Yes, I understand it is a problem for some people.
I need it to verify the signature on all the non-paper receipts I get,
and also to fill most government forms here. It is not needed to read
most documents, only for legal documents. I use it little, but for those
little specific needs there is no alternative.
> Does the Windows version run in “Wine”?
No, it doesn’t. At least, not the recent versions, which are those that
matter.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
I think I installed it a couple of years ago for the sake of some Tax or Govt_ documents, but since then these organisations now fully support open documents.
IIRC Acrobat Reader kept leaving a file in the root dir, just can’t recall it’s ID
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don’t know if you are aware that acrobat reader will not be available
> in 13.1, because adobe will no longer provide security updates for
> Linux, apparently, and the openSUSE security team has thus decided to
> remove it.
>
> However, some of us need acroread for several reasons. Two important
> ones are that alternatives do not fully support XFA Forms (no
> javascript), and that signature verification doesn’t work.
>
> There are two long threads on the factory mail list about this, for
> those interested (remember that the people taking the decisions do not
> read here).
>
It is high time Evince supported digital signatures so that I can kiss
adobe reader a permanent goodbye
I’ll miss acrobat reader mainly because I have been using it frequently for a long time and am familiar with its very good navigation and printing features. I guess I’ll have to learn Okular.
On 11/07/2013 11:16 PM, crmrhm wrote:
>
> I’ll miss acrobat reader mainly because I have been using it frequently
> for a long time and am familiar with its very good navigation and
> printing features. I guess I’ll have to learn Okular.
>
> When I found acroread was not in the 13.1 RC2 non-OSS repository, I
> downloaded the rpm file from Adobe. It installed fine, and starts OK.
> However, when exiting, the program goes to a high % of CPU, and keeps
> running. I used System Monitor to forcibly kill it. There is some
> discussion of this in the 13.2 RC2 thread starting at
> http://tinyurl.com/lekpotv
Even if the download from Adobe would have worked correctly, I would not
recommend using it for the following reason: Adobe will continue to fix the
numerous security holes in the Windows versions. That means that those fixes
will be known to the black hats. They will also know that anyone using the
program on Linux will definitely not have fixed those problems. As a result,
they will have a prescription for attacking your Linux system.
On 2013-11-08 04:16, deano ferrari wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2596383 Wrote:
>>
>>
>> I need it to verify the signature on all the non-paper receipts I get,
>> and also to fill most government forms here. It is not needed to read
>> most documents, only for legal documents. I use it little, but for those
>> little specific needs there is no alternative.
>>
>>
> I guess you’ll have to push hard for the adoption of open-source
> documentation along these lines…
There is no real alternative to PDF in open source, for this particular
usage.
In Windows there are alternative viewers and creators that work, but not
in Linux. The problem is javascript in forms, and signature - the rest
works in opensource.
Unfortunately, the current right wing governments do not want Linux. In
Extremadura Linux is diminishing. This seems to be intentional.
We can not push hard for opensource solutions because most of the people
see no need. Windows is gratis, they say, because the pirating ratio
here is huge.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
> Even if the download from Adobe would have worked correctly, I would not
> recommend using it for the following reason: Adobe will continue to fix
> the numerous security holes in the Windows versions. That means that
> those fixes will be known to the black hats. They will also know that
> anyone using the program on Linux will definitely not have fixed those
> problems. As a result, they will have a prescription for attacking your
> Linux system.
What are those dangers? Do those holes need network, that adobe have
connection to the outside? I can impede adobe from connecting in the
firewall, and I can further lock it with apparmor.
I do not use adobe to read any PDF, only for some PDFs from known sources.
It is either that, or boot Windows.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
On Fri 08 Nov 2013 01:58:06 AM CST, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
I don’t know if you are aware that acrobat reader will not be available
in 13.1, because adobe will no longer provide security updates for
Linux, apparently, and the openSUSE security team has thus decided to
remove it.
Hi
Good job, haven’t used in in forever in both SLE or openSUSE. Plus it
sucks in a bazillion (well quite a few anyway) 32bit libs…
Pick one of the OSS ones and see if the upstream folks can help. Else
run Windows?
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Hmm… this is a big deal for me as I use / view .PDF files HEAVILY and have used acroread for all of that. Last time I tried opensource alternatives they didn’t handle my files well, so maybe it’s time to look at them again.
I’ll load some up in the 13.1 RC2 VM I created and see how it goes. I do digitally sign / e-sign / enter form information into .PDF files a lot and it sounds like that’s an issue for opensource right now?
> Pick one of the OSS ones and see if the upstream folks can help. Else
> run Windows?
Which is a terrible admission of defeat.
If you need use of some of the advanced features, that is. They are not
fully supported or not at all by opensource alternatives. If you never
use acroread you don’t even know they are there.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
On Fri 08 Nov 2013 06:08:06 PM CST, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2013-11-08 15:30, malcolmlewis wrote:
> Pick one of the OSS ones and see if the upstream folks can help. Else
> run Windows?
Which is a terrible admission of defeat.
If you need use of some of the advanced features, that is. They are not
fully supported or not at all by opensource alternatives. If you never
use acroread you don’t even know they are there.
Hi
Why an admission of defeat, use what works for you to get the job done,
windows, osX, unix, linux, android etc…
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Currently, I use Windows for preparing income tax returns, and opensuse for just about everything else. I don’t see it as a problem to occasionally need to boot Windows to get something done.
On 11/08/2013 02:26 PM, nrickert pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
> malcolmlewis;2596540 Wrote:
>> Why an admission of defeat, use what works for you to get the job done,
>> windows, osX, unix, linux, android etc…
> I agree with Malcolm on that.
>
> Currently, I use Windows for preparing income tax returns, and opensuse
> for just about everything else. I don’t see it as a problem to
> occasionally need to boot Windows to get something done.
>
>
Or having a VirtualBox instance of Win X for such purposes.