On my OpenSuse 11.3 Gnome 32 bit version; my applications are organized in a much finer detail, than my OpenSuse 11.4 Gnome 64 bit.
For example in 11.3, when I got to Applications/Multimedia.
I have a choice of Audio player/Cd burner/Media editing/Video player/Volume control.and then each application is in their respective categories.
On my OpenSuse 11.4, I have the same applications as the 11.3 32 bit system, but my organization is different. It is not as organized.
For example if I got to Applications/Multimedia I have no subcategories just a long list of applications
Any ideas on how to get this organized as 11.3 did it? I’m not even sure how on 11.3 it organized it like this.
I do not use Gnome but I have one standard menu setup in /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu and one for KDE in /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu.kde4. You might have a special menu for your Gnome. Compare these files on both your systems.
On 2011-05-13 23:06, the Dude abides wrote:
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> On my OpenSuse 11.3 Gnome 32 bit version; my applications are organized
> in a much finer detail, than my OpenSuse 11.4 Gnome 64 bit.
> For example in 11.3, when I got to Applications/Multimedia.
> I have a choice of Audio player/Cd burner/Media editing/Video
> player/Volume control.and then each application is in their respective
> categories.
>
> On my OpenSuse 11.4, I have the same applications as the 11.3 32 bit
> system, but my organization is different. It is not as organized.
Create a Bugzilla on usability. Add photos.
Or vote for mine.
See thread “Traditional menu broken in 11.4”
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Either set XDG_MENU_PREFIX to an empty string in your xinitrc or Xsession file, or switch the menu files, or define your own XDG_CONFIG_DIRS, put your applications.menu there and do what you want.
It worked for me to set XDG_MENU_PREFIX to an empty string
On 2011-05-14 01:36, the Dude abides wrote:
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> I did as you suggested in ‘Traditional menu broken in 11.4’
> (http://tinyurl.com/3vpsgbk)
>> Either set XDG_MENU_PREFIX to an empty string in your xinitrc or
>> Xsession file, or switch the menu files, or define your own
>> XDG_CONFIG_DIRS, put your applications.menu there and do what you want.
> It worked for me to set XDG_MENU_PREFIX to an empty string
Then, Please, add a comment on the Bugzilla stating that you too do not
like the current status. The developers insist that the flat menu is best,
they are not going to move a finger.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Carlos, you admitted that it wasn’t a bug but a decison (I read your bug report). In fact, the guy is right that it doesn’t work with Gnome3, but it doesn’t hurt either. The gnome-shell simply ignores submenus, although they still work in fallback mode. The new desktop will look like a cellphone - whether we like it or not. What else do you expect from the facebook/iphone generation of programmers? Take a look of the Gnome3 presentation (GNOME 3 - Made of Easy) ! - well … maybe not today!
On 2011-05-14 15:06, please try again wrote:
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> robin_listas;2339570 Wrote:
>> O
>> Then, Please, add a comment on the Bugzilla stating that you too do
>> not like the current status. The developers insist that the flat menu is
>> best, they are not going to move a finger.
>>
>
> Carlos, you admitted that it wasn’t a bug but a decison (I read your
> bug report).
Which is valid for a Bugzilla. It is not the first time, and there is no
other avenue to complain officially of “decisions”.
> In fact, the guy is right that it doesn’t work with Gnome3,
> but it doesn’t hurt either. The gnome-shell simply ignores submenus,
> although they still work in fallback mode. The new desktop will look
> like a cellphone - whether we like it or not. What else do you expect
> from the facebook/iphone generation of programmers? Take a look of the
> Gnome3 presentation (‘GNOME 3 - Made of Easy’ (http://www.gnome3.org/))
> ! - well … maybe not today!
My report is not about gnome 3, which is about a year off, but about gnome
2. And anyway, I understand we will be able to work in the traditional
mode, they do not intend to break old applications.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
I’m trying to respond in the best way, but I don’t understand, because as please_try_again said
Carlos, you admitted that it wasn’t a bug but a decison (I read your bug report). In fact, the guy is right that it doesn’t work with Gnome3, but it doesn’t hurt either. The gnome-shell simply ignores submenus, although they still work in fallback mode. The new desktop will look like a cellphone - whether we like it or not. What else do you expect from the facebook/iphone generation of programmers?
Which gets me to believe I should not respond to complain since it is not a bug. But I agree I really appreciate the organization one has with the subcategories.
What is the best approach for the newest distribution that comes out in the future, since I like the old organization? Is there a way to be able to change the default settings to have subcategories in Gnome 3? (On both my computers I am still running Gnome 2).
I always organize my own menus by redefining XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS, so any freedesktop compliant environment such as KDE, Gnome, Xfce, LXDE reads the menu in an alternate path rather /etc/xdg/menus and uses the deskop and directories files in /usr/local/share/applications and /usr/local/share/directories instead of the ones installed in /usr/share/applications and /usr/share/directories.
I too use Gnome2 in all openSUSE machines, but I got Gnome3 on ArchLinux in a recent update. I think it will be in Fedora to be released in a couple days. So I will have to cope with it (or maybe retire).
As I previously mentionned, submenus are still handled (yet) in Gnome3 fallback mode (picture1) but are ignored in gnome-shell mode (picture2). The preferred way to start applications is now to type their name in the searchbox (picture3). The screenshots were taken on ArchLinux but I doubt it will be very different on openSUSE.
On 2011-05-15 17:06, the Dude abides wrote:
> What is the best approach for the newest distribution that comes out in
> the future, since I like the old organization? Is there a way to be able
> to change the default settings to have subcategories in Gnome 3? (On
> both my computers I am still running Gnome 2).
Me, I consider it a reportable problem in bugzilla. It is not the first
time we report a bad decision, there is no other official place I know of.
One notable case was when they decided to automatically trigger sleep
(s2ram) after some minutes of inactivity. This could crash machines, and is
terrible for servers. It was a long discussion, which ended when testers
with IBM in their domain name started to complain bitterly. Novell/Suse
staff switched off the new feature instantly
About Gnome 3, I have no opinion yet.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
