The move to the Nuremberg infrastructure – member's IP address

As part of the move, the associated SUSE account is also moving – for me, right now.

  • After the activation of my newly established SUSE account and, logging out and then logging back in again, an IP address related e-mail popped up:

Your SUSE Account xxxx@online.de was just used to sign-in from a new or unrecognized device, browser, or application.

Sign-In Details
FIREFOX - Linux
Wednesday, May 6, 2020
Munich, Bavaria, Germany
IP: 87.123.xxx.yyy

Don’t recognize this activity?
Your account may have been compromised; we recommend reporting the suspicious activity to your organization.

[HR][/HR]Ahem!!!
Boy, have I got news for you!

  • My IP address changes at least once per day, thanks either to, my ISP – United Internet – or, the backbone network – Deutsche Telekom …

06.05.20 05:41:52 Internetverbindung wurde erfolgreich hergestellt. IPv4 wird über DS-Lite genutzt. AFTR-Gateway: aftr.mun1901bihr001.versatel.de, IPv4-MTU: 1500, Breitband-PoP: mun1901bihr001, LineID: 1UND1.DEU.DTAG.6XASE.
06.05.20 05:41:48 Die Internetverbindung wird kurz unterbrochen, um der Zwangstrennung durch den Anbieter zuvorzukommen.

05.05.20 05:43:00 Internetverbindung wurde erfolgreich hergestellt. IPv4 wird über DS-Lite genutzt. AFTR-Gateway: aftr.mun1901bihr001.versatel.de, IPv4-MTU: 1500, Breitband-PoP: mun1901bihr001, LineID: 1UND1.DEU.DTAG.6XASE.
05.05.20 05:42:56 Die Internetverbindung wird kurz unterbrochen, um der Zwangstrennung durch den Anbieter zuvorzukommen.

[HR][/HR]I hope that, I won’t be receiving a daily e-Mail informing that, my IP address has changed and, THAT’S SUSPICIOUS … >:)

Are you deleting all cookies when you close browser? It might be using cookies and IP for tracking.

Maybe a bug report is needed, but I suggest you let things settle down for a few days before trying that.

I got the same mail, but as I in fact do never login there, I do not care. (apart from the fact that I got a fixed IP address from my ISP, to which I may attach a domain name).

How much do you log in there?

I am not sure that we should worry now already about the new login in the openSUSE forums on the base of the new login for SUSE.

Yes.

  • IMHO, keeping cookies is only useful if, you only ever access a single URL.
  • Keeping cookies is, AFAICS, an attribute of people who don’t care about what other people can, if they want to and, try hard enough, glean about their habits.

[HR][/HR]Keeping cookies or not, what most people don’t realise is, that at least here, a subscriber’s IP traffic, is initially transported via the ISP’s private (telecommunications) network to a Router which physically connects to “the Internet” – in my case it seems to be ALP-IX in Munich, which is owned by DE-CIX – a rather small company which, “only” handles a daily average of 4.8 Tbit/s traffic at their main Internet exchange point located in Frankfurt-am-Main.

  • Therefore, attempting to track a normal DSL subscriber’s IP address is, IMHO, one of the most futile exercises on this planet …

Unless, you have the power to infiltrate the likes of United Internet and Deutsche Telekom

If, you’re not in the business of running a Web Server located at your site, AFAICS, there’s very little point in paying your ISP for the privilege of having a fixed IP address.

  • If you wish to access your DSL Router from anywhere in the world, a fixed IP address can ease this exercise but, there are other solutions to this issue for private “at home” subscribers – such as Dynamic DNS services …
  • Personally, my wife and I have two registered Internet Domains and associated Web Servers which are maintained by the our ISP, at the ISP’s premises …
  • Our ISP also, supplies a “Cloud” as part of the normal monthly bill; this is accessible world-wide given that, access has been set up and, the access credentials have been set up.
  • Our E-Mail accounts, which are services provided by our ISP, are also accessible world-wide.

[HR][/HR]Bottom line, for private “household” ISP subscribers, I can see absolutely no need for fixed IP addresses.

Almost forgot another point:

  • The IPv4 address my ISP has assigned to me, is, AFAIK, not uniquely assigned to me.

The wonders of IPv4 routing allow that, more than a few users within the network which assigned that IPv4 address, all use that address for their IP traffic …

My ISP simply provides me this. I have not asked for it or ordered it, nor do I find it specified on my monthly bill. It is simply in their basic package.

And yes, when I ever want to run a web sever from my home, I can so without asking them for specific actions. I have already connected the host-domain name (which is of course within their domain) to my IP address long ago (can be done from their server pages). I only have to forward port 80 from my router to the sysem which runs Apache (now only serving inside my LAN).

But I feel no need until now because another feature that is inside the package offered is some disk space (the same place where my mail kept is before I download it). I can manage there using webdav access and thus through Dolphin. I can put web pages there that are then accessable through an URL provided by them. That is enough for the time being.

Enough to show you how you can move a house to another place in the village: https://hcvv.home.xs4all.nl/Moving-a-house.jpg

If you log into a site, then they can track you by the fact that you login. Deleting cookies doesn’t really do anything there, except make it harder to login.

That’s likely why they tell you that you signed in from a new or unrecognized device.

My practice is to keep cookies from sites where I login, but delete most of the others.

Same here. In most cases the username is already filled then. But as the Firefox password manager can also fill that in, I am not sure if that is realy needed.

In any case the openSUSE forums are not in the list because they only use session cookies, thus there is no need to keep non-session cookies.

Even if I allow cookies from sites I often login to stay after the session, that is not the case for third party cookies they may try to set.

Exactly, much easier to track inherent properties of our devices, like installed fonts, screen size, audio context, etc.

And captchas… they become a real PITA.

Or, you do it like the New Zealanders, Australians and US Americans – after it’s been jacked up from the piles, use a 40 tonner low loader to move it to the new location – if the house is too large for the road, use a chainsaw to cut it into sizeable chunks – chainsaws can usually handle corrugated iron roofing without too many problems.
[HR][/HR]Levity aside, take a look at <https://www.iplocation.net/&gt; – for the case of your mobile telephone, turn off the GPS, turn off the WLAN, turn on the data via UMTS, LTE or, 5G (3G/GSM and GPRS should also work); fire up a Web Browser at the IP Location URL.

  • Repeat the exercise using your IPv6 address …

I do have a GSM, but it is a phone only.

And, does IP Location point to your home address or, the geographical location of your ISP’s Internet access node?

Oh yes, it does. That is not a surprise for me. I can give you the hostname, you can find the IP address and thus the location: henm.xs4all.nl

Sorry, did not read your question thouroughly enough. My home location. Weren’t it for the virus, you could pass by for a beer or so.

Not for me.

  • The IPv4 address tends to indicate Munich – at least Microsoft, Google and SUSE believe that – despite SUSE having my real house address …
  • It also tends to indicate Düsseldorf …
  • The IPv6 address usually indicates Düsseldorf, and occasionally either Frankfurt am Main or Munich.
  • Our private domain is indicated as being in either Karlsruhe or, Montabaur or, Neubrandenburg …

Needless to say, I’m not located at any of those locations – I’m actually more than 160 km from the nearest one …
[HR][/HR]I’m beginning to wonder if, there’s something tucked away in Germany’s Telecommunications laws related to this, which is possibly why, the German Federal Network Agency hasn’t raised any objections to this practice …

As of today, when you complete the Bugzilla migration process, there’s a check box in your profile:

Remember this IP address (security enhancement)

  • Do not check this box if, your ISP regularly changes your IP address.

[HR][/HR]Or, something like that – the IDP Portal seems to be misbehaving at this minute.

For me the forums are now blazing fast compared to what they used to be.

Good work!

Indeed:


erlangen:~ # ping -c 5 forums.opensuse.org
PING login2.opensuse.org (195.135.221.161) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 195.135.221.161 (195.135.221.161): icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=16.9 ms
64 bytes from 195.135.221.161 (195.135.221.161): icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=17.4 ms
64 bytes from 195.135.221.161 (195.135.221.161): icmp_seq=3 ttl=58 time=18.5 ms
64 bytes from 195.135.221.161 (195.135.221.161): icmp_seq=4 ttl=58 time=16.3 ms
64 bytes from 195.135.221.161 (195.135.221.161): icmp_seq=5 ttl=58 time=16.3 ms

--- login2.opensuse.org ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4006ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 16.280/17.073/18.458/0.800 ms
erlangen:~ # 

Yes, the Forums are currently responding quite nicely – with 11 members and 183 guests accessing it – nowhere near the peak of 58024 on the 23rd of December 2010 …
[HR][/HR]Please note that, the setting to advise the infrastructure of the fact that, my ISP regularly changes my IP address, seems to be working quite nicely.