The lone dot issue bites again.

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 22:58:05 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 22:56:46 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> Carlos, can you see this text in NNTP?
>
> My guess, you can - because Pan converted the line to "… "
>
> .Test to see what this looks like.

OK, looks like any line starting with “.” should be changed to start with
“…” in order to work properly.

Jim

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 22:58:43 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:

> OK, looks like any line starting with “.” should be changed to start
> with “…” in order to work properly.

I’ve changed my sandbox to do this and it seems to work OK. Change
should be in place probably on Monday or Tuesday next week.

Thanks to all for both the feedback and for pushing back. While the
clients /should/ handle the conversion of "
.
" to "
.
“, being RFC
compliant is a better solution. The new fix converts "
.” to
"
…" (note the absence of the trailing

  • that actually means that
    “.test” will be converted to “…test” which also is what I see happen
    with my reader posting against this and my INN server at home, and from
    my read of the RFC is also the way it should be handled).

Jim

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On 2012-09-07 21:50, dd@home.dk wrote:
> On 09/07/2012 07:46 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> If you reproduce this and get anything other than the full article, let
>> me know. If you can’t, then it’s a client-side issue and a bug needs to
>> be logged against the client.
>
> i get it all via telnet, but did not via nntp (into TBird)–are you saying i should log a bug
> against TB?
>
> but but, i can see the lone dotted message in this thread ??

I would create a new user and try there with Th. If that user gets the post correct, it may be that
the server changed content, and your normal Th has the first result cached.

I can not do that test, but if when I reach home in some days and run leafnode, I will check what it
downloads.

I can also try find the internal cached copy by leafnode and see if it is complete or not.

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Carlos E. R.
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On 2012-09-08 00:56, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Here’s a message that in theory (I’ll check the post myself from telnet
> to see if it got posted the way I intended) should break the NNTP readers
> that have problems.
>
> .
>
> This text is below a line with ". " as the only characters on the line.
>
> Carlos, can you see this text in NNTP?
>
> Jim
>

The above is what I see, quoted. Is that what it should?

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Carlos E. R.
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On 2012-09-07 17:37, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:48:23 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> With pan do you have both your local leafnode cache and the remote server
> configured?

I did for a moment. Then I realised it would be a problem and deleted the local server line. There
were problem still, so I erased both… and restarted the program.

I jumped through many loops.

>
> The reason I ask is that confronted with multiple servers hosting the
> same groups, Pan picks one or the other when an article is present on
> multiple servers. It was initially designed to pull multipart binaries
> from alt.binaries groups (as a primary purpose), and in that setup when
> there are multiple parts spread across multiple servers, but no server
> has all the parts, and it transparently reconstructs the original group
> of posts with multiparts.

Cute…

In the configuration you can set a primary and a secondary or backup server, too.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

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On 2012-09-07 17:34, Jim Henderson wrote:

> What version of pan?
>
> Pan is the newsreader I use, and I’m seeing the messages properly. I run
> Pan 0.135.

me, 134. This laptop has oS 11.4. It will be interesting when I get back home to see what leafnode
there does.

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Carlos E. R.
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 02:17:09 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2012-09-08 00:56, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Here’s a message that in theory (I’ll check the post myself from telnet
>> to see if it got posted the way I intended) should break the NNTP
>> readers that have problems.
>>
>> .
>>
>> This text is below a line with ". " as the only characters on the line.
>>
>> Carlos, can you see this text in NNTP?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
> The above is what I see, quoted. Is that what it should?

Yes. If you read the thread further (which I am guessing you did),
you’ll see that I found a better way to handle this that should solve the
problem, but the update won’t be implemented probably until next Tuesday
(as I’m going to be out Monday, and I don’t have direct access to the
server, so someone else has to implement it).

Jim

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On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 02:17:10 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> Cute…
>
> In the configuration you can set a primary and a secondary or backup
> server, too.

Yeah, I don’t know what actual effect that has, though - I’ve been using
it since the 0.14.x days (before the complete rewrite was done).

Jim

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On 2012-09-08 05:16, Jim Henderson wrote:

>
> Yes. If you read the thread further (which I am guessing you did),
> you’ll see that I found a better way to handle this that should solve the
> problem, but the update won’t be implemented probably until next Tuesday
> (as I’m going to be out Monday, and I don’t have direct access to the
> server, so someone else has to implement it).

Yes, I saw it. No problem waiting, and thanks :slight_smile:

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

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On 09/08/2012 01:16 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Change should be in place probably on Monday or Tuesday next week.

thank YOU!!!

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:40:41 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> Via nntp I only see a paragraph. On Jim reply I see several more
> paragraphs separated by lone dots.

The fix is now in place, along with another fix for the weird font sizing
conversion. You shouldn’t see font sizes having case converted or spaces
added in between letters any more.

Jim

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