The light bulb just came on!

Now I get it. Yast is the swiss army knife of system administration. It does it all.

My first impression was, yuck. This thing is slow and cumbersome. (I was used to Synaptic, Ubiquity, Software Center…)

Now I’m getting it figured out. Once you learn how to use it Yast is very powerful. Everything is in one place. No jumping around between several applications and menus to get things done. (I think this is where Ubuntu is trying to go with Software Center)

My book now has two tally marks where openSUSE kicks Ubuntu’s butt. Yast and KDE. (I expect to find more in the near future)

I know this isn’t a great revelation to most of you, but once I got it figured out I got excited and had to share.:slight_smile:

If I had to name the #1 thing that I love about Suse, it would be Yast.

The really beautiful thing about it for me is that I can go in with SSH remotely and fire up the text-mode version and it’s laid out the same. You can do all system administration that way from thousands of miles away.

Neither Red Hat nor Ubuntu nor have anything that comes even close to Yast.

Indeed - YaST is wicked.

Check this too, just in case you can’t mack it all the way to a desktop
Boot to Level 3, then Yast and More… - openSUSE Forums

Just looked at it, did not know it was there (though I did now how to run YaST in its ncurses incarnation). Nice and very usefull to those who do not know.

I only have two remarks (yes, me again :frowning: )

  1. why didn’t I know this thread of you exists? Rethorical question, maybe I am to lazy to look at all and everything. But I hope this is somewhere linked to in the “For all newbees to read” section.

  2. Please use

su -

instead of

su

But do not start to discuss this again with me, I hope it is just a mistake. When it is on purpose, I rest my case.

:slight_smile: su again

In the case of yast here. Yes su -

First let me say, as may have done in the past. I have never yet experienced any issue with su as opposed to su -

Sometimes I recommend su in preference. Especially for newer users. Here is why.

  • Past experience of no problem
  • In the case of installing say nvidia drivers, which I typically recommend is placed in /home/username. I say boot to level 3 login as users and become su Then sh NVIDIA{TAB}… Now if you used su - in your instructions you now have to get them to cd back to /home/username and IIRC {TAB} didn’t work last time I tried it with su -

So it’s just a simplicity thing really. And I have driven home the nvidia driver from su so many times:)

“su” with the dash is required in the Fedora/RHEL/CentOS/et.al. world. If you just use “su” in an xterm, you become root, but it doesn’t set up your environment, so you get a “command not found” on most of the system utilities.

Took me a while to get used to that on our CentOS boxes. Now I just enter “su -” without thinking, out of habit.

I was running F10 and 11 over up till OS11.2 and used plain old su when doing my nVidia driver from level3
Worked perfectly.
Also Virtual Box PUEL ver. from a terminal su then rpm -ivh <>
:slight_smile:

welcome to enlightenment…

indeed, YaST is the bees knees in the Linux garden of flowers…


palladium

smpoole7 wrote:
> Took me a while to get used to that on our CentOS boxes. Now I just
> enter “su -” without thinking, out of habit.

hint:
alias s=‘su -’
alias m=‘mc’
alias ms=‘su - root -c /usr/bin/mc’


palladium

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:03:55 +0000, palladium wrote:

> welcome to enlightenment…

No, no, he’s using KDE. :wink:

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator

Next, discover the genius of Yakuake.

What is it and what is it used for?

Yakuake KDE-Apps.org

Yakuake is seriously awesome. I use it on a daily basis and much prefer it to Konsole because it is fast, simple, and always there. Plus it does everything I need a terminal to do.

ken yap wrote:
> (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29153)

i guess it is a kde4 thing, only…huh?

if i ever ‘upgrade’ it looks interesting…i do get tired of
Ctrl+Alt+Fx or etc… :wink:


palladium

I dunno I still prefer synaptic as a package manager as opposed to YAST, but I have strange loyalties to it as its the application that got me hooked on linux.

Some search results seemed to indicate that it was already working with 3.5. I didn’t investigate further.

Maybe I should’ve left Fedora out, then. I just assumed that it behaved the same as CentOS. That’s what I get for assuming. :slight_smile:

Proof that you can learn something every day. I’d never tried Yakuake. I just did, and I’m intrigued. :slight_smile:

Thanks to GofBorg for pointing it out.

Until today I thought it pertained to sound. As goo as to better than Konsole.
Thanks G!