Yesterday 4march09 I open a thread openSUSE: Login 17:10 and today 5march09 late knight I got one answer.No one try to help me in that thread everyday a get more experience in suse .
Those people browsing around bet.17;10 till 24:00 you know from 4march09 and get far more experience could help others,but some of them they ignore others,hylol! my friend Im already solve my problem half way.;) This side takes long time to get a reply Why take so long to get reply from an experience member like today?. It is because Im not english speaking person ooooh;)
See yeah.
> You got another answer now. Sometimes you have to be patient and wait
> for a knowledgeable person to come along.
patience is out of fashion…instead the new thing is to load up FREE
software and then gripe because it is different from what they used
to buy…and, complain that the free help is not fast enough…
next they will want someone else to pay their house mortgage, and mow
the grass FASTER!
and, by the way: what is it with a 60 second boot time?? i got
important stuff to surf, and exciting games to play.
Let’s not forget - many of us who try to help do so in many locations, not only the forums so the free time we can afford to give to helping others is often split into smaller chunks. Unfortunately this means we often miss threads or questions because we don’t spot them - due to being busy, doing something else (like say “real life” , helping someone else or simply not knowing the answer.)
We’re not oracles even tho’ many of us are experienced on various facets of the OS or OS’es.
To quote ol’ Scotty from Star Trek ;“The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop the drain”.
Some of us simply restrict what we help on to a very specific area. We could spend our entire day helping users with different problems, which if we attempted that would result in:
a. our wife (or husband) divorcing us, and
b. our boss firing us, and
c. our non-Linux friends ignoring us, because we have been ignoring them,
d. never having time for our own hobbies.
So instead, we limit our help to a large extent to a specific area … some of us focus on Networking, … others on Wireless, … some on Desktops, … some on Multimedia, … some on Webcams … some on Sound … and some try to help in all areas (if they can find the time).
Even if I had the knowledge (which I do not have), I would not help in all areas.
As volunteers, we don’t get paid for our efforts, so we really have to balance carefully the support we give, against the risk of alienating our wives/husbands, bosses, friends … etc …
Sometimes, especially if it’s a hardware-specific problem, it takes time for someone who’s familiar with that problem to answer. In some cases, maybe no one knows the answer. Maybe you’re the first to see that particular issue.
Coupled with #1, the people who volunteer to help here do so when they have time. That time for me tends to be in the evenings, sometimes first thing in the morning (though my posts are considerably less lucid when done at that time).
I doubt your English is the issue. You can make yourself understood, and that’s good enough for most people here. It’s certainly good enough for me!
One other tip: I looked at the post in question and you really didn’t give enough information. (A common problem – you’ll see, “Please Help ME!” followed by, “tell us more …”). You were having trouble mounting a second hard drive, but gave no details about the make/model, what was happening, what you’d tried, etc., etc. Even though you’ve been posting here a lot, you can’t assume that anyone will remember what your hardware and OS versions are.
I have enough trouble remembering mine. :)rotfl!
At any rate: no, it’s not because of your broken English. Come to Alabama sometime and you’ll hear some of the worst English ever spoken, and this is by people who were born and raised in the United States!! rotfl!
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 06:46 +0000, 1michael1 wrote:
> Yesterday 4march09 I open a thread ‘openSUSE: Login’
> (http://forums.opensuse.org/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1952765) 17:10
> and today 5march09 late knight I got one answer.No one try to help me in
> that thread everyday a get more experience in suse .
> Those people browsing around bet.17;10 till 24:00 you know from
> 4march09 and get far more experience could help others,but some of them
> they ignore others,hylol! my friend I`m already solve my problem half
way.
This side takes long time to get a reply
Why take so long to get reply from an experience member like today?.
It is because I`m not english speaking person ooooh;)
> See yeah.
Am I the only one having a hard time finding a post from yesterday
from 1michael1 in the Boot/Login section??
Ok yesterday I ask the the question about My second HD it didn`t recognize right.Bet in 1 1/2 hrs I got already that kind of info
su
(enter root password, no echo)
fdisk -l
cat /etc/fstab
in opensuse forum how long I get the same answer what I just posted it.If you like the web side where I got the same answer Linux Forums thread is little different and you can see how many members,moderator…Opensuse members not those got no experience those got lots of experience some hand full Moderator doing very good,1 or few moderator some of them should not be a moderator at all special when they are at night trying to help others and I know what a moderator has to do,of course can not answer all the question
and that info I got not from that forum,that person got equal experience like oldcpu, caf4926,geoffro,kgroneman all the way up to ab@novell.com.I remember who help me a lots and I know how got experience to,Im not from yesterday :) At that time I was a new in linux and few days or weeks later the person find out a I dont like to help him out anymore , that is a bad attitude and ignore it very simple.
I know there is few others they feel the same think like that member Biome.How many Modertors and Site Administrator a lots,like to compare like SuSE Linux Help - Linux Forums
I have patience it doesn`t take 24hrs to get an answer from very experience people and some of them ignore it.
When you use the first time linux and some one ignore you how do you felllol!
Ich habe viel Zeit aber mann kann nicht warten 2 oder 3 Tage fuer eine anwort,ich verstehe max.3 stunde aber ueber 12 stunde :.
Das ist alles was ich habe zu sagen oder schreibe.
Let’s accept it, you’re not the only one to have a lonely thread. There are many of us. Like the previous responses to this thread, all are volunteers who are just taking their spare time to share their ideas. Me also doesn’t want my wife to divorce me.:;). Where is the king when the queen is lost.lol! Don’t mind also if you think you are being ignored or threated as invisible. When you’re lucky with your post timing someone will help you. Look at this lonely thread Kongqueror doesn’t start flash automatically - openSUSE Forums but never I made a complaint.
Look at my post here February 2009 Screenshot Thread - openSUSE Forums. The guy I ask did help me and even pm me for more instructions. When you can’t find answer here use google and try others while waiting for a response in this forum.
Your last comment concerns me a little. If you expect a response to every post within 3 hours, you’re going to be disappointed. I’ve made requests here that remained unanswered for days myself. I never assumed that I was because people didn’t like me, or because I didn’t word the question correctly. I just assumed that maybe no one who knew the answer had spotted my question yet.
You seem to believe that your broken English is the problem, and I’ve already addressed that. I don’t think that’s the case at all. When you ask a question like, “Can’t get NVIDIA to work,” you’re likely to get a fast response. MANY people have experienced that problem.
But if you ask, “why isn’t my 2nd hard drive working,” remember a few things: statistics show that most users (even in Linux, who tend to be above average, IMNHO) have only one hard drive. Most single hard drive installations go without a glitch, even with Windows present. It’s only when something is unusual or out of the ordinary that problems will typically appear.
Simply put, it will take longer to get a reply to something like that. For another perfect example, look at how many unanswered (or barely-answered) posts there are here about sound issues. There are dozens of different sound cards, each with different (and incompatible drivers), so it’s not surprising that it takes longer to get a response.
That’s all I have to say or write about this as well. If you still want to believe that you didn’t get a quick answer because people here “don’t like you” or don’t like your English, I can’t change that.
> Come to Alabama sometime and you’ll hear some of the worst English
> ever spoken, and this is by people who were born and raised in the
> United States!!
Of course. But, that is because people in Alabama don’t usually speak
English. Instead they both speak and write American. [aka: “merican”
in Texanese]
, helping someone else or simply not knowing the answer.)
