Until version 10.4 it was possible to run programs in text mode using the “Failsafe” option in the boot loader. From version 11 onwards you can still install using Text mode but as soon as the OS loads, Open SuSe goes into graphics mode whether you are booting normally or in Failsafe mode.
You can still run text mode under Terminal, but it is small and not very nice to use on a regular basis. As my program is very old 1980s text-based, I would like to continue using it in full screen text as at the moment I am still forced to use version 10.4 instead of the superior 12.1. Can anyone help please? Thank you.
On 2012-02-15 11:06, studiohire wrote:
>
> Until version 10.4 it was possible to run programs in text mode using
> the “Failsafe” option in the boot loader. From version 11 onwards you
> can still install using Text mode but as soon as the OS loads, Open SuSe
> goes into graphics mode whether you are booting normally or in Failsafe
> mode.
> You can still run text mode under Terminal, but it is small and not
> very nice to use on a regular basis. As my program is very old 1980s
> text-based, I would like to continue using it in full screen text as at
> the moment I am still forced to use version 10.4 instead of the superior
> 12.1. Can anyone help please? Thank you.
Text mode has not changed at all.
If you want your system not to run graphics at all, you simply have to edit
inittab and set the default runlevel at 3. Failsafe mode does not mean
textmode, never has.
Or you can boot into graphics mode and then switch to text mode by typing
ctrl-alt-f1…f6 and login. Notice that the first virtual console is
different than the rest, because it has a graphic background, it uses
framebuffer.
Or you can open a terminal in graphics mode. If you think it is small,
change the font. All terminal types have different settings and allow to
change font size at least to some degree. There are many: xterm, konsole,
gnome-terminal, and many more. Look in Yast, several are not installed by
default.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 02/15/2012 11:38 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Or you can open a terminal in graphics mode. If you think it is small,
> change the font.
or grab a corner and pull it bigger!!
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or, if you do not want X windows running at all:
at the first screen during boot (where you can select to boot normal or
failsafe) just type “3” into the Boot Options line (just type 3 and it
will fall there automatically) and then press enter…
you will soon have a log in prompt where you can launch your app…
HOWEVER: there is no openSUSE version 10.4, nor is there an “Open SuSe”
of any version…both of which causes me to wonder just exactly what
you are running??? please solve that mystery by returning the output of
cat /etc/SuSE-release
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Booting to runlevel 3 and specifying a VGA mode that is to your liking seems to be what you need. Both can be witten to GRUB as bootparameters. Have a look at YaST’s Bootloader.
On 2012-02-15 13:52, DenverD wrote:
> On 02/15/2012 11:38 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> Or you can open a terminal in graphics mode. If you think it is small,
>> change the font.
>
> or grab a corner and pull it bigger!!
That depends on the terminal you use; some, like xterm keep font size and
just gives you more lines and columns.
> HOWEVER: there is no openSUSE version 10.4, nor is there an “Open SuSe” of
> any version…both of which causes me to wonder just exactly what you are
> running??? please solve that mystery by returning the output of
cat
> /etc/SuSE-release
Mmmm, right.
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Cheers / Saludos,
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(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 02/15/2012 09:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> That depends on the terminal you use; some, like xterm keep font size and
> just gives you more lines and columns.
as far as i can understand from the OP’s
You can still run text mode under Terminal, but it is small and not very
nice to use on a regular basis.
it is not the font size that is the problem, but rather the size of
the terminal/xterm/konsole itself
On 2012-02-16 08:36, DenverD wrote:
> On 02/15/2012 09:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>> That depends on the terminal you use; some, like xterm keep font size and
>> just gives you more lines and columns.
>
> as far as i can understand from the OP’s
>
> You can still run text mode under Terminal, but it is small and not very
> nice to use on a regular basis.
>
> it is not the font size that is the problem, but rather the size of the
> terminal/xterm/konsole itself
>
Xterm default is the same number of lines as a classic terminal, 24*80
cer@Telcontar:~> set | grep -i lines
LINES=24
cer@Telcontar:~> set | grep -i colum
COLUMNS=80
If you try to make it bigger, you get more lines of the same small letters.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 02/16/2012 10:48 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> If you try to make it bigger, you get more lines of the same small letters.
right, i think the OP asked how to make the terminal bigger, not how to
make the font bigger, see an example of what i’m talking about, here:
Thanks to everyone who replied to my text mode problem. Actually I am using version 10.3 (you were correct, there is no version 10.4) The suggestion to type ctrl-alt-F1-F6 should do the trick, although I have only managed this once successfully and it was perfect in full screen text. The other times the screen goes blank and I need to reboot. No other key combination seems to rescue the situation. In inittab I tried changing the default runlevel to 3 instead of 5 at boot and at first it looked like text mode was going to load, then it loaded graphics mode as usual. I’ve checked inittab and it is definitely set to 3. The third suggestion of typing “3” into boot options at boot works fine, but the text is only a quarter of the screen. I’m sure that there must be work-around for this using font sizes or changing VGA mode, as this is behaving just as it does in Terminal mode.
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On 2012-02-16 12:05, DenverD wrote:
> On 02/16/2012 10:48 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> If you try to make it bigger, you get more lines of the same small letters.
>
> right, i think the OP asked how to make the terminal bigger, not how to
> make the font bigger, see an example of what i’m talking about, here:
>
> http://paste.opensuse.org/95208213
That’s right. For me bigger can also be understood as everything scaled,
fonts too.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 02/16/2012 02:06 PM, studiohire wrote:
> I am using version 10.3
suggest you install a supported version–there are currently two: 11.4
which i recommend, or 12.1 which i do not, yet…well, 11.1 and 11.2 are
patched via project Evergreen, read here: http://tinyurl.com/4aflkpy)
because, 10.3 went end-of-life and out of support on July 26th, 2010
(cite http://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime) and has had zero security patches
since…
and, i’ll tell you, if you boot up to a GUI, and then hold down Alt and
Ctrl and tap F1 (to get to VT-1 [virtual terminal one] and if then don’t
get a full screen terminal that you do not have to reboot to get out
of–then your machine/operating system is VERY VERY broken…
or, well…hmmmmm… i wonder, you do know that when in full screen
terminal you only have to press Ctrl and Alt and then tap F7 to come
back to the GUI, don’t you??
and, you can move from VT-1 to VT-2 by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 and etc to
all from 1 to 6, and Ctrl+Alt+F10 shows the kernel log…
but you knew all of that, right?
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On 2012-02-16 14:06, studiohire wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone who replied to my text mode problem. Actually I am
> using version 10.3 (you were correct, there is no version 10.4) The
> suggestion to type ctrl-alt-F1-F6 should do the trick, although I have
> only managed this once successfully and it was perfect in full screen
> text. The other times the screen goes blank and I need to reboot. No
> other key combination seems to rescue the situation.
??
ctrl-alt-f7, did you try it?
> In inittab I tried
> changing the default runlevel to 3 instead of 5 at boot and at first it
> looked like text mode was going to load, then it loaded graphics mode as
> usual.
what do you have here?
# The default runlevel is defined here
id:3:initdefault:
> I’ve checked inittab and it is definitely set to 3. The third
> suggestion of typing “3” into boot options at boot works fine, but the
> text is only a quarter of the screen.
!!??
You may have a broken system.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
Hi DenverD. many thanks for your advice. Setting the nomodeset to ‘3’ on the Failsafe setting did the trick. I have been trying different methods for a while now and that has finally fixed it for me.
Best wishes and thanks again.
Paul -Studiohire
Hi Carlos E.R. Many thanks for your advice. Setting the nomodeset to ‘3’ on the Failsafe setting did the trick. I have been trying different methods for a while now and that has finally fixed it for me.
Best wishes and thanks again.
Paul -Studiohire
On 2012-02-22 21:16, studiohire wrote:
>
> Hi Carlos E.R. Many thanks for your advice. Setting the nomodeset to ‘3’
> on the Failsafe setting did the trick. I have been trying different
> methods for a while now and that has finally fixed it for me.
> Best wishes and thanks again.
If it works… However, the failsafe setting runs also usually slower.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 02/22/2012 09:06 PM, studiohire wrote:
> has finally fixed it for me
but: since that machine has had no security patches in years suggest
you take it off of any and every network where either an intruder from
the internet or some grumpy worker might compromise it.
this is no kidding! openSUSE 10.3 makes a very fine bot-net controller
node…reliable and steady to direct the WinZombies to send out DOS
attacks, penile enlargement emails and etc…
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