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[b]Hello there,

I’m having a problem with updating the system and most of my installed software,
my update source only contain two entry’s [/b]

[ol]
[li]one for mozila firefox witch couldn’t be found till i reinstalled the program.
[/li]wich points to URL: Index of /repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2
[/ol]

[LIST=2]
[li]one for OpenSuse 11.2-0
[/li]wich points to URL: cd:///
[/LIST]

Please check the screen shot

Now every time i try to check for update using the Update applet
i get [b]

no updates available
[/b]
[b]
and that happen about 2 second after pressing “Check now” wich isn’t a normal thing

it starts to happen after i was trying to install a new packages
when i selected the update source to be cd
I hope i don’t have to reinstall the system (again) [/b]

2

Why don’t you add OSS, Non-OSS and Update-Repo? Maybe packman too?

Just click “add” and follow…

3

[b]Ok

i clicked “add” then a long list comes up[/b] but with no [b]

OSS, Non-OSS and Update-Repo packman

[/b]

i have selected community Repositories

ok i see what you mean now

i have selected the following

[ol]
[li]Main Repositories (Non-Open Source Software Addon repository).
[/li][/ol]

[LIST=2]
[li]Main repository (OSS) of openSUSE 11.2 including only Open Source Software.
[/li][/LIST]

[LIST=3]
[li]Latest stable OpenOffice.org release.
[/li][/LIST]

[LIST=4]
[li]VideoLan Software Repository (i’ve installed VLC player).
[/li][/LIST]

[LIST=5]
[li]Packman Software Repository (I don’t know what is that).
[/li][/LIST]

[LIST=6]
[li]Main update repository
[/li][/LIST]

I want to provide update source for Mono Project (Mono Develop 2)

thanks for your help>>

4

Packman can be considered as “multimedia repo”
Just disable the videolan repo and change VLC to the version of packman. It’s the better choice.

I don’t know what to do with Mono, but have a look at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/ there are 2 mono repos. Perhaps one fits your choice?

5

The updater-applet only checks for new packages in the “update”-repo by default anyway, doesn’t it?

[By the way: there’s no need to use those huge fonts here…]

6

it does, if not changed to using libzypp…

7

I don’t know what to do with Mono, but have a look at Index of /repositories there are 2 mono
repos. Perhaps one fits your choice?

ok i’ll go with that

Index of /repositories/Mono:/MonoDevelop/openSUSE_11.2

**but what is the different between .repo and .ymp?? **

**i noted that the .ymp is a xml file and i think the ,repo is the Repository file but how to instal it ??

by the way why Firefox doesn’t has an Update option??
the update applet Insist to update to version 3.5.7 while i have firefox 3.6.0 installed ?? **

http://i47.tinypic.com/oirx1c.jpg

8

Please stop using huge text!

Please post result of

zypper lr -d
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mostafa@linux-by6h:~> zypper lr -d
# | Alias                               | Name                        | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                              | Service
--+-------------------------------------+-----------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1 | http-download.opensuse.org-673a2606 | Updates for openSUSE 11.2-0 | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/                        |
2 | mozilla                             | mozilla                     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2/ |
3 | openSUSE 11.2-0                     | openSUSE 11.2-0             | Yes     | No      |   99     | yast2  | cd:///                                                           |
4 | repo-debug                          | openSUSE-11.2-Debug         | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/   |
5 | repo-non-oss                        | openSUSE-11.2-Non-Oss       | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/non-oss/     |
6 | repo-oss                            | openSUSE-11.2-Oss           | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/         |
7 | repo-source                         | openSUSE-11.2-Source        | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/  |
mostafa@linux-by6h:~>
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Yast - software management
Please do this on the Mozilla repo (switch system packages)
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That image shows it being done on kde, you need to select mozilla

11

Excellent Job with firefox update upadte applet isn’t pothering me any more about firefox update to it’s early version !!!

but “switch system packages” please Can i have any more info about that,i have re execute zypper lr -d but i have the same table ??

also please help me with adding (MonoDevelop) Repository so that i can update it ???

again what is the different between .repo and .ymp??

thanks in advance

12

When you use the switch packages on a repo like that it forces the system to update from that repo for those packages it contains. You should not really need to use it again unless circumstances change significantly. Switching does not change repos, just packages. The last switch you should make is this one: http://tinyurl.com/yejwull

A repo is a repository (software store)
A ymp is a Yast Metapackage (May contain multiple repos’)

To add the mono repo use the repository manager in yast, here is a guide
Repository Management - openSUSE Forums

Please only add repos you are SURE you need.

13

first thanks for your responses and your time, you are doing a great job here.

To add the mono repo use the repository manager in yast, here is a guide
Repository Management - openSUSE Forums

i add repository from community repository like you said but then i tried to update using update applet but i didn’t get any prompt to install the new version (i have v2.0 they released v2.2.1).

but from the MonoDevelop download page:
Download - MonoDevelop

i selected 1clickInstall
firefox asked to open file with a .ymp extension>
it’s performed installation then i got every thing updated.rotfl!

14

It might be worth checking your repos

zypper lr -d

One click installs can add duplicate repos.

15

your solution to your confusion is explained this way:

there is a difference between both the word and the method of “update”
versus “upgrade” (one big hint is they are even spelled differently)…

in your example v2.0 might have been released months ago and then a
bug or security flaw was found in the program and it was patched to
fix the problem with an update…and, you continued to use v2.0 but it
had a different “build number” or release date or something…

then a new version v2.2.1 was released and you wanted to upgrade to
the newer version…

see, you could update v2.0 from the update repo until next century
and never upgrade from v2.0 to v2.2.1…

in order to upgrade you must access a repo where the newer
versions of the application are held, which is what the 1-Click did…

it can also be done with Zypper or YaST, but i think not with the
Online Updater…

ok?

–
palladium

16

Actually DD, you can switch view in Online Updater to resemble that in Software management.
Just that by default it installs patches only, as you quite rightly imply.

17

caf4926 wrote:
> Actually DD, you can switch view in Online Updater

didn’t know that (don’t use it)…
thanks…

–
palladium
i may have to stop trying to help…,or cave in and “upgrade” to
something newer than 10.3, which i’m afraid will be a step backwards
in us-, depend-, st-ability for me </sigh>

18

No worries friend. And BTW 10.3 was a crackin’ OS but honestly 11.2 is is up there.

19

in order to upgrade you must access a repo where the newer
versions of the application are held, which is what the 1-Click did…

i understand that

A patch normally does not upgrade to a newer version and does not offer additional functionality.
A new program version offered by the community may
offer fixes, too, but primarily adds new functionality.

also

The updater applet does not monitor repositories for new software versions by default.
To enable this feature, tick the check box Show Available Upgrades When Back-End Provides Them check box.

When the updater icon indicates the
availability of updates, click on the icon to launch the software installation window.

Click on Details and then on the Upgrade tab to open the list with new software versions.

does this mean that i can install a new version ex 2.3 with the same repository???
or that my repository is useless if i want to upgrade to a new version.

One click installs can add duplicate repos.

please tell me where is the Equivalent folder for the “Program File” folder in opensuse (don’t tell me it’s user/bin it is a stupid folder filled up with files (binaries ,library ,system it takes couple of second to open,) like system32 in windows)

and here’s my out put for zypper lr -d

mostafa@linux-by6h:~> zypper lr -d
# | Alias                               | Name                        | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                              | Service                                                                        
--+-------------------------------------+-----------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+------------------------------------------------------------------+--------                                                                        
1 | 11.2 - VideoLan                     | 11.2 - VideoLan             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.2/         |
2 | Mono                                | Mono                        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Mono/openSUSE_11.2/    |
3 | http-download.opensuse.org-673a2606 | Updates for openSUSE 11.2-0 | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/                        |
4 | mozilla                             | mozilla                     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2/ |
5 | openSUSE 11.2-0                     | openSUSE 11.2-0             | Yes     | No      |   99     | yast2  | cd:///                                                           |
6 | repo-debug                          | openSUSE-11.2-Debug         | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/   |
7 | repo-non-oss                        | openSUSE-11.2-Non-Oss       | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/non-oss/     |
8 | repo-oss                            | openSUSE-11.2-Oss           | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/         |
9 | repo-source                         | openSUSE-11.2-Source        | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/  |
mostafa@linux-by6h:~>
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mostafaxx wrote:
> please tell me where is the Equivalent folder for the “Program File”
> folder in opensuse (don’t tell me it’s user/bin it is a stupid folder
> filled up with files (binaries ,library ,system it takes couple of
> second to open,) like system32 in windows)

not sure i understand that question, is it like:

"Where is the Linux equivalent folder of the “Program Files” like
“system32” in Windows?

if that is the question then i’m pretty sure the answer to your
question is well laid out here:
http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/

which tries to explain the Linux file system to Windows users…

i can’t verify if it is absolutely correct since have no idea how
Win32 is laid out, having last use Win3.1 which was a 16 bit release
and patterned very much after DOS…

and, i also can’t be sure, but i don’t think there is one folder
somewhere which is exactly like any one folder on Windows…

and, before you get too upset because Linux and Windows are different
i’ll remind you that Linux is patterned after Unix which was developed
in 1969–when Bill Gates was 14…so ask HIM why he didn’t follow our
way…

–
palladium