System renders Verdana in a weird way

I have copied my Windows fonts to /usr/share/fonts/. While I understand that they can’t exactly be rendered like they are on Windows, this Verdana rendering looks odd.

http://i.imgur.com/yP60y.png

(CSS style: font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif;)

Notice how that “N” in “Norton” and the “V” in “Virus” look obese? By means of comparison, here’s the font viewer’s rendering of Verdana:

http://i.imgur.com/Dntm5.png

Why does this happen? Is there a fix?

Looks awful. In which application?

Chromium version 7.0.528.0 (from openSUSE 11.3 stable repo). Firefox renders the font in a similar way though.

I’ve had some bad results with Firefox and SeaMonkey re font rendering on 11.3 Gnome, but not on KDE. Which DE for the problem shown above?

I’m using KDE 4.4. (I’m still waiting for KDE 4.5 to arrive to the stable openSUSE repos.)

Also using 4.4.4 and have 4.5.4 on my testing partition. Haven’t noticed a difference re browser font rendering, both being ok. So will look at Verdana now and come back to you.

Tried Verdana with Firefox & SeaMonkey on KDE 4.4.4 by changing Edit>Preferences and forcing that font on a couple of websites. Verdana rendered well at 100% and higher. No problems with Caps such as your N and V. Similar results were obtained with Sans-serif font. IIRC, the Windows fonts were downloaded using the openSUSE packaged installer, but definitely not copied from a Windows system. Please note, I haven’t applied any changes to font rendering since the default install. Did you copy all the appropriate files - isn’t there more than one file per font?

I have multiple files for Verdana: regular, bold, italic and bold italic.

http://i.imgur.com/FMW38.png

Could it be that Chromium/KDE/openSUSE somehow can’t find the fonts?

It is probably caused by the need to render a vector as a bitmap on the screen. Does this happen when you use Verdana in OO, for example, and does it go away when you zoom? I have no similar problem in OO.

Verdana looks okay in OO.

http://i.imgur.com/FISLn.png

http://i.imgur.com/iLlXH.png

I’ll make a test page in HTML to do some additional browser tests.

I have the same number and name of verdana files as you, but I noticed that my verdanai.ttf file is smaller at 150.6 KiB - your picture showing 173.8 KiB. So the file content must be different.

I could be using the Windows 7 Verdana instead of the one that’s packed with the msttcorefonts bundle - I don’t know. But the font looks okay except inside browsers, so I’m gonna have to verify that the font that is used is actually Verdana and not some other font. (Although the CSS rule asked for Verdana so it should have been rendered as Verdana.)

I’ll make a HTML test page for my browser and post the result asap.

This test page renders equally bad in Chromium, Firefox and Konqueror.

http://i.imgur.com/wYYNT.png

Wait a minute…

http://i.imgur.com/bHkJh.png

Looks like I’m gonna have to go look for a better Verdana Bold font somewhere… My Windows 7’s Verdana Bold looks well on Windows, but Linux doesn’t render it as expected.

Your test page link renders very well in SeaMonkey (and would also in Firefox) - nothing like your picture.

I would replace the whole Verdana set, it’s not just the bold that looks poor.

That’s interesting, because I copied them straight from my Windows install. This is Verdana Bold from the fetchmsttfonts package:


Looks much better already. Would you advise against importing Windows fonts?

My “poor” comment was based on what I saw of your browser font rendering, and not the Font Viewer. Importing Windows fonts? I’ve read users’ suggestions to copy them across before, but not from W7, so I just wouldn’t advise either way. I thought I read some time ago that the W7 fonts had changed from the older core fonts. They appear to have different file sizes. Googling might find the answer. However, I’ve always used the msttfonts supplied/fetched by those distros I installed.

It’s great that you are now seeing an improvement. :slight_smile: