switching from Ubuntu to OpenSuse11

Hi,

Hope im posting in the right sub-forum

I started using linux since last year and thanks to Ubuntu i love it.:)

I’m still new to linux… so please do help me

I want to use OpenSuse11 (OS11) … and i have a few questions that i need to ask

  1. does it have gnome + compiz ?
  2. will awant window manager work with OS11 ?
  3. how much hdd space do i need? i currently have 15gb for ext3 and 1.5gb for swap ( as i have 1gb ram ). That is if i plan to do a full install.
  4. i use my laptop for this… does it have acpi and quick launch button support ?
  5. my wireless card is broadcom… does OS11 recognize it by default or do i need to use ndiswrapper?
  6. I cant use any other browser apart from Opera… but Opera website doesnt have a version out for OS11. So how do i go about this ?

Sorry that i’m asking very basic questions… but these are really important for me…

Thanks in advance

  1. Yes - in GNOME you’ll use the Desktop Effects button to enable Compiz.
  2. Yes - although you might need to install it seperately.
  3. A few gigabytes is enough for the OS, tools and Desktop Environment.
  4. If it worked under Ubuntu it’s more than likely to work under openSUSE as well (Same tools, albeit occasionally different versions)
  5. Depends on the card - you might need to use the firmware cutter - 11.0 ships with the new b43 driver.
  6. Opera is available in the non-OSS repository and you can install it via zypper in opera or from YAST / Install Software.

For the firmware cutter to work you’ll need to have a wired connection temporarily (afaik).

Beat me to it Chrysantine!

As for the Broadcom card, the b43 driver is fantastic, it beats the pants off ndiswrapper, and is extremely easy to get working.

If you can’t connect to the network to run the firmware installer (sudo /usr/sbin/install_bcm43xx_firmware), send me a PM and I’ll send you a free gift to make it simple ;).

Oh, and the SUSE/Novell team invented Compiz, so yes you will get desktop effects if you want them!

Thank you for your swift response.

" 3. A few gigabytes is enough for the OS, tools and Desktop Environment. "

can you be more specific… as in … is 15gb enough?

I think this depends on the user. There is absolutely NO WAY I could survive with 15gb on my desktop PC. But I am getting by with 15gb (for openSUSE-10.3) on the family laptop and 15gb (for openSUSE-10.2) on my mother’s PC.

The considerations are, how many 3rd party applications do you like to install? The more 3rd party apps, the quicker the 15gb gets used up. I have hundreds of 3rd party apps on my PC, and I use a lot of space. But I limit the apps on our laptop and I limit the apps on my mother’s PC.

Another issue is how recent is the openSUSE version? If the openSUSE version just came out, its likely there will be many future kernel updates. Unless one cleans up afterward, kernel updates consume many megabytes of hard drive space, with documentation files, and other files, that are not removed when a new kernel is applied (one has to make an extra effort here to keep clean).

Also, … do you want to keep a copy of every installed rpm? That will also consume a lot of space (if you don’t offload those rpms). … By defaults rpms are NOT kept, … but in my case, I like to keep every rpm, as it is useful when trying to track down incompatibility problems with different application versions …

Also, do you have another NTFS or VFAT partition, that you can mount as a /home/user/data partition, to store various data/music/video/picture files?

IMHO, it really boils down to your philosophy, and how you maintain your system.

this 15gb is dedicated to OS11 and nothing else…

i have my music… movies etc on diff drives ( ntfs )…

i just wanted to know… suppose i did a complete install from the dvd and i dont keep the rpms … will 15gb suffice…

15GB will be plenty enough for OS and tools.

The normal GNOME desktop would take 2-3GB of installed space with all the necessary tools for media applications (Music, graphics, web browser etc).

I run most of my virtual machines where I have SuSE installed in less than 4GB.

thank you again…

i’m leaving now to get the dvd from my friend…

be prepared to answer more and more of my dumb questions :smiley:

@oldcpu : is there a tutorial on how to do this ?

Unless one cleans up afterward, kernel updates consume many megabytes of hard drive space, with documentation files, and other files, that are not removed when a new kernel is applied (one has to make an extra effort here to keep clean).

Note the installation DVD is also your rescue DVD. So if you can’t keep the DVD permanently, make a HIGH QUALITY copy of it, … which means a copy on a high quality DVD media, burned at the slowest speed possible on a good DVD burner. Verify the burn afterward!

Please take a look at this stickie:
NEWBIES - Suse-11.0 Pre-installation – PLEASE READ - openSUSE Forums

You can get a good idea as to the DVD installation menu’s here:
Installation/11.0 DVD Install - openSUSE

If your PC is 64-bit, you should be given a choice between 32-bit and 64-bit. For newbies I always recommend 32-bit. Note also that KDE-4.0.x on the installation DVD is buggy (its not up to 4.1 quality, and even the recently released KDE-4.1 (released 29-July) IMHO still needs more development to have all the features of KDE-3.5.9). So if you are leaving Gnome to try KDE, I would recommend KDE-3.5.9.

As soon as you finish your installation, and have both your graphics (GUI) and Internet function, the very next thing you MUST (IMHO) do is setup your software repositories. I recommend OSS, NON-OSS, Update, and Packman, and NO MORE! (You can always add more later, when you understand better the side affects/implications). There is guidance on how to do that here: Repositories/11.0 - openSUSE-Community

I installed opensuse…

its fully updated

there are a few problems…

  1. the mouse pointer is as big as my head… im using the obsidian theme… but still it shows as though it is ’ extra large white ’

  2. the window border is invisible
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    as you can see in the image… there are no minize/maximize buttons

    i’m using humanoid-osx-black theme for this

  3. i installed awn… but it doesnt start during boot time

  4. java not recognized as a plugin by Opera ( i’m unable to locate plugins folder of firefox )

  5. the display settings applet always loads after boot… even after repeated removal from the panel

  6. shutting down the lid of my laptop… and openning it back… the system does not respond… need to restart forcibly… ( ive set the option to blank screen under power management )

apart from this… i’m also using mac-osx-theme-for-debian icon set and slickness gtk2+ theme

please help me

  1. i’ve mounted my ntfs drives thru… yast->partioner and gave mount points for each drive to /media… im not able to write to any of those drives

im not logged in as the root user… does it matter?

not being an ntfs user ( pure linux in my house,including kids computers ) ,but, make sure ntfs-3g is installed,& i do believe there is a tutorial somewhere on the forum for using ntfs-3g, you may have to search for it

Andy

ive done it the same way as given in some of the other threads on problems with mounting the drives…

but im not able to write to the them… even though the mount as read only option is unchecked…

i disabled desktop effects… and now i have the window border… my mouse pointer is back to normal…

but without compiz and awn i cannot use this…

That happens with me too.

Re-enable desktop effects, then open a terminal and type:

emerald --replace &

That should load Emerald which is responsible for drawing the borders. Then open the Emerald util from the system menu and select the border you want.

I always have to do this the first time, and after that it seems to stick, and the borders work properly, even on reboot etc’.

No idea why.

You are far better off starting a separate thread for each of your problems, with a well chosen “title” that summarizes your problem technically, so that the experts in that area will see the problem title, and read the post. Any other approach is IMHO hit-and-miss in trying to get good support.

will do that … thanks

Hmm! How do you change the sub-routines of a boy, Christine? I must be awfully lucky cos I got 114 gig to play with in my PC:D! Judging how openSUSE ran amuck when I first used it, I guesss my PC is a vast playground - wait till I load my music and videos on it that will shrink it a bit (only 20 gig so far) hehe!:smiley:

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