SuseStudio LiveCD with USB

I want to create a live usb with susestudio.
Unfortunately i couldnt figure it out or it seems impossible.

USB raw image is not a live system image.
It just installs the distro into the usb and extremely slow because of USB is slower than HDD.
It also takes so much space than live images.(600MB iso/2400MB raw)

But read-only live images are so much faster.
I just give an example, dont get me wrong;
Ubuntu live image with usb boots 15 seconds, programs respond very fast.
Ubuntu installed usb boots 40 seconds and programs respond very slow.

USB is not suitable for installing, it is more suitable for live images.
I tryed a few ways to boot live cd iso with usb.

Unetbootin, Universal USB installer doesn’t work. Gives an error about gfxboot.
Suse Imagewriter doesn’t work, it doesnt even boot and give any error just passes.
When I make isohybrid before Suse Imagewriter, it boots but gives an error like “Couldnt find live image configuration”
When I directly copy contents of iso into usb of fat32, it gives another error “No disk found”

I just cant understand why suse makes it so hard.
I tried it with a CD, it didnt give any error but Hey we are in 2011 and still try to boot with CD

alright, i think i am close to solution now
when i boot original opensuse 11.3 dvd with isohybrid before suse imagewriter into usb, we can choose disk as installation source on boot menu and add namescheme=by-label code.
Without selection of source the code is useless.
Now I have to inform installer that it has to use usb disk as installation source not cd/dvd.
I think it must solve the problem
But how can i make it?

Help me please.
Regards…

Read and translate this
Δημιουργία Live και bootable USB](http://forums.opensuse.org/greek/i-i-i-i/i-i-i-iui-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-isi-i-i-ioei-i-i-i-i/i-iui-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-documentation/453295-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-live-i-i-i-bootable-usb.html)

Even google translate cannot handle it.
But I tried isohybrid and suse imagewriter.
Thanks for the answer

Because I am Greek you know…!!!
Try with syslinux.

I can see that you are Greek.
By the way I am Turkish. Nice to meet you.
But I think the answer is not that simple.
I am not asking a standart live usb distro.
I can make it with original suse cd/dvd
But this problem is for suse studio.
Thanks for answers.

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:06:02 +0000, tremere51 wrote:

> I can see that you are Greek.
> By the way I am Turkish. Nice to meet you. But I think the answer is not
> that simple. I am not asking a standart live usb distro. I can make it
> with original suse cd/dvd But this problem is for suse studio.
> Thanks for answers.

What I would do is make an ISO and then use unbootin to put it on the
flash drive.

Though that doesn’t do persistence for filesystems, ISTR that if you do
that with the live media and leave space for a writable filesystem, you
can set it up so it’ll write to the writable spaces.

Jim


Jim Henderson
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Thanks for answers.
I made a live cd iso
I downloaded unetbootin last version
the error message in boot is
“Couldnt find Live image configuration file”
I added i"nstall=hd" boot parameter but the result is same
It perfectly works with CD/DVD
But not on USB
Please help me
Regards…

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:06:02 +0000, tremere51 wrote:

> Thanks for answers.
> I made a live cd iso
> I downloaded unetbootin last version
> the error message in boot is
> “Couldnt find Live image configuration file” I added i"nstall=hd" boot
> parameter but the result is same It perfectly works with CD/DVD
> But not on USB
> Please help me
> Regards…

At what point do you get the error message, and when you say “But not on
USB”, what specifically fails?

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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I fail booting with liveusb
Last steps are

“Mounting live image system”
“Couldnt find live image configuration file”
“Reboot in 120 seconds”

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:36:02 +0000, tremere51 wrote:

> I fail booting with liveusb
> Last steps are
>
> “Mounting live image system”
> “Couldnt find live image configuration file” “Reboot in 120 seconds”

What packages are you including in the build? (Specifically, kernel and
any related drivers packages) I’m wondering if the USB storage drivers
are included, or if it’s getting partway through the installation and
then dying because there’s no access to the USB filesystem.

Can you boot into a recovery console from the drive?

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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my kernel is desktop 2.6.37-9.1
I dont know how to list all 680 packages but it would be easier to tell me which packages must be included.
by the way i didnt include hal
How can I boot into recovery console?
Thank you so much for the answers.

By the way when i make a usb stick raw there is no problem
But it is not a live image, it installs the distro into usb and takes so much space almost like 3Gb.

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:36:02 +0000, tremere51 wrote:

> my kernel is desktop 2.6.37-9.1
> I dont know how to list all 680 packages but it would be easier to tell
> me which packages must be included.
> by the way i didnt include hal
> How can I boot into recovery console? Thank you so much for the answers.

When booting from the USB stick, do you see a menu option for “recovery”?

What I’m wanting to do is see if there’s a way we can get to a console
prompt where we can run commands.

If you’re using a standard kernel (and the desktop kernel is he right
one), then you should have what you need. But it might not hurt to boot
from the ISO (from CD/DVD) and get to a console prompt as root and type:

lsmod | grep usb

And list that output here. That might also help us without having to do
so from the USB stick.

You may need hal for USB to work properly, but my memory’s a little fuzzy
on that point. Let’s start by trying to get to a root console from the
stick or from the ISO boot and go from there.

Something else that might be obvious - are you sure your system supports
booting from USB? (It sounds like it does since you get to the point of
an error message, but it’s the sort of thing I like to ask just in case
we get down the path a bit and then realize that it’s not fully supported
with your hardware - better to learn that earlier rather than later.)

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

Unfortunately I dont see any option called recovery.
Options are keyboard and language selection, failsafe
I can see my usb with “lsmod | grep usb” command on LiveCD.
I included hal but nothing changed.
My system supports usb, i can make live usb with original opensuse 11.3 cd and dvd’s.
this problem cause of susestudio developers didnt include liveusb.
I dont want any persistance, only live
I am trying to make it with my own.
I have tried everyway that i see on forums, google search, bla bla but failed
And no answer in suse studio users, I am really stucked at the moment.
Thanks for the answers.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:36:02 +0000, tremere51 wrote:

> Unfortunately I dont see any option called recovery. Options are
> keyboard and language selection, failsafe I can see my usb with “lsmod |
> grep usb” command on LiveCD. I included hal but nothing changed.
> My system supports usb, i can make live usb with original opensuse 11.3
> cd and dvd’s.
> this problem cause of susestudio developers didnt include liveusb. I
> dont want any persistance, only live I am trying to make it with my own.
> I have tried everyway that i see on forums, google search, bla bla but
> failed
> And no answer in suse studio users, I am really stucked at the moment.
> Thanks for the answers.

I’ll give it a try tomorrow when I have a few minutes, I have built
LiveUSB media out of output from Studio before (I’m pretty sure about
that), but it’s been a while and I don’t recall exactly how I did it.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

Thank you so much Jim
I hope you will save me
If you want I can send you my account with pm, and you can see it closer.
My package selection without depencies

aaa_base
alsa-oss
ark
audacious
audacious-plugins
bootsplash
branding-openSUSE
chromium
cnetworkmanager
command-not-found
cracklib-dict-small
crda
dhcpcd
dolphin
gfxboot
gimp
grub
gtk-oxygen-engine
gwenview
hwinfo
icewm-lite
insserv
iw
java-1_6_0-openjdk
java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin
k3b
kbd
kbluetooth
kcalc
kcm_gtk
kcolorchooser
kde4-filesystem
kdebase4
kdebase4-openSUSE
kdebase4-session
kdebase4-workspace
kdialog
kdm
kernel-desktop
kgamma
kget
kmix
kolourpaint
ksnapshot
ktorrent
kvkbd
kwin
kwrite
laptop-mode-tools
liberation-fonts
libgcc45
libreoffice
libreoffice-calc
libreoffice-icon-theme-oxygen
libreoffice-impress
libreoffice-kde4
libreoffice-writer
licenses
links
mc
mkinitrd
module-init-tools
nano
netcfg
ntfs-3g
ntfsprogs
okular
openSUSE-build-key
opensuse-codecs-installer
openSUSE-release
p7zip
partitionmanager
phonon-backend-gstreamer-0_10
plasma-addons
plasmoid-networkmanagement
plasmoid-quickaccess
plasmoid-smooth-tasks
PolicyKit
polkit-default-privs
preload
preload-kmp-desktop
procps
pwdutils
rpm
rpmorphan
strigi
SuSEfirewall2
sweeper
sysconfig
unrar
virtuoso-server
vlc
wireless-regdb
xdg-user-dirs
xorg-x11-driver-input
xorg-x11-driver-video
xorg-x11-libX11-ccache
yakuake
yast2-control-center
yast2-control-center-qt
yast2-live-installer
yast2-metapackage-handler
yast2-ncurses
yast2-ncurses-pkg
yast2-online-update
yast2-online-update-frontend
yast2-qt
yast2-qt-pkg
yast2-runlevel
yast2-theme-openSUSE-Oxygen
yast2-users
yast2-vm

On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 00:06:02 +0000, tremere51 wrote:

What is the base platform that you’re using for yoru build?

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

JEOS
I didnt have to select so much package cuz dependencies made it for me.
I sent my susestudio account with pm. You can see it closer now.

Developers answered me.
They said hybrid live iso feature is not supported yet.
What a shame, it is really disappointing.
The integration must be bloody easy. Why not ?
In 21. century we are being forced to use CD/DVD

Hi
I used LiveCD images with imagewriter to create bootable USB devices on numerous occasions? How big is the image?

it is like 600mb
i have used suse studio imagewriter
but it didnt boot just passed.
i have done isohybrid with my own before imagewriter
But it errors;
“Couldnt find Live image configuration file”
I can make a live Cd and installable DVD on USB with original opensuse iso’s.
So my pc doesnt have any problem to boot live usb images.
SuseStudio developers told me that isohybrid live feature is not supported yet.
I wonder if there is any other way that i can try?
Please help me.
Regards.