SuSE, Ubuntu, Windows .... and SuSE ?

This is an “Ask before one shoots themself in the foot” question.

I have the following:

Twilight:~ # fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x9dd6057a

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1               1        1567    12586896   27  Unknown
/dev/sda2            1568        1580      104422+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3            1581       21162   157286676    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda4   *       21162       60801   318400268+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5           21163       25078    31455270    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6           25079       25600     4192933+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7           25601       29516    31455238+  83  Linux
/dev/sda8           29517       33432    31455238+  83  Linux
/dev/sda9           33433       33954     4192933+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda10          33955       37870    31455238+  83  Linux
/dev/sda11          37871       45703    62918541   83  Linux
Twilight:~ # 

where partitions sda1, 2 and 3 are Windows 7, sda5 is a shared data partition, partitions sda 6, 7 and 8 are Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS, and partitions sda 9, 10 and 11 are openSUSE:

sean@Twilight:~> uname -a
Linux #1 SMP 2010-10-25 08:40:12 +0200 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Not shown is (approximately) 116GB on unallocated space in the extended partition. Actually, one can infer this from the fdisk -l output. None of these installs are of any production-use (yet), as such is on another laptop and desktop.

I am entertaining the idea of installing a test set (openSUSE 11.4 MS2). Not having installed two separate openSUSE’s on the same HD, I would like to know if

a) can it be done ?
b) since I will have to manually direct the install to a new set of partitions (pre-allocated with either GParted or Parted Magic), will the second installation recognize the first openSUSE and include such in the new GRUB ?
c) in addition to re-adding the Ubuntu entries in GRUB (no problem, have done so before), are there any further considerations for GRUB ?
d) (actually, a -beta issue), any potential problem(s) with sharing a swap partition with a -beta version ? The two (2) existing -swap partitions are currently shared, but that will cease when hibernation is started. (That is another story).

Hi SeanMc98:)

Installation of two versions of openSuSE should not be a problem, many of us do that.

Which version og GRUB are you currently using? The one from openSuSE (called legacy) or the one from Ubuntu (GRUB2)? There are many threads on this and other linux forums about this subject. As long as you save (or can create) the stanzas for both the new and old installations you can always edit the necessary boot files.

Let us know if you want more help or advice.


I haven’t installed 11.4 but normally the answer is yes.

It should.

No. If you’re using Ubuntu’s Grub as well, just run update-grub under Ubuntu.


The next Milestone is out very soon

You know you don’t need 2 x swap’s

As said, one Swap serves all Linuxes.

And there is no need to pre-partition that rest of the disk because you can all do that during the install. Also when you want to pre-partition there is no need to use one of the magic partition tools. You showed allready you have fdisk. That is the ultimate partition tool and as you only want to partition not used space, you can use the fdisk from any of your existing Linuxes.

Only to show you the alterbatives. All of the roads above (and in betweens) can be followed.

Thanks for all the responses.

I am using (and prefer) GRUB “legacy”. It has shown to be easier for manual changes. I have tinkered with Ubuntu’s GRUB 2, but only when Ubuntu steps on the preferred (openSUSE “legacy”) boot mechanism. With the recent demise of the installation media “Repair” facility, I have taken to PartedMagic.

As for the two (2) swaps, I had entertained separate swaps for hibernation purposes. Frankly, unnecessary, as I only keep the Ubuntu for pedagogical (sp?) purposes, but mostly due to Ubuntu working correctly with my Intel GMA HD. <sigh>

BTW, we are here about openSUSE, not SuSE, there is no more any SuSE version supported for some time.

I shall endeavor to remember that.

On a note closer to this theme, the second openSUSE (11.4 MS2) is comfortably installed alongside openSUSE 11.3, Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS and Windows 7. After completing the install, I noticed that the new GRUB had entries for Windows and the “other” (prior) openSUSE, with the correct kernel.

After saving a copy of /boot/grub/menu.lst, I booted into the prior openSUSE entry (to restore the Ubuntu entries), and … SURPRISE! The entry for “old” openSUSE actually takes me to my prior GRUB menu! I am most pleasantly surprised!

On a less positive note, I can re-confirm that 11.4 MS2 (kernel 2.6.36-rc2-16) does NOT include support for the Intel GMA HD. This is, of course, not surprising, as a newer kernel (2.6.36-90.1) also was found absent of such support. Apparently, 11.4 MS3 is near (05 Nov 2010).

Nice it works for you.

When you want to communicate things about 11.4, you better start a thread in the Prelrelease/Beta Forum.

It was, perhaps, inappropriate to use the openSUSE 11.4 MS2 by way of example. The intented topic was configuration of multiple openSUSEversions on the same PC.

I have continued the thread here openSUSE, Ubuntu, Windows … and openSUSE (Chapter 2…), although the subject is not necessarily the pre-release/beta material.