SuSE 11 - window behaviour - jerky slow

Hello,

I have installed SuSE 11 and have updated with the current patches including a patch to the Kernel. The kernel version is 11.0-2.6.25.11 - 0.1

For the two or so weeks prior to the installation of the patches, SuSE worked perfectly. There was no lag with typing, or opening windows, or scrolling.

Now, windows scroll incredibly slowly. System monitor shows virtually no CPU usage. Eg. 1% Firefox, and Ksysguard 3%.

When I type, there is a lag. Firefox is very very jerky and slow. OpenOffice use is a bit faster. Konqueror is jerky.

It is a bit like an older gentleman slowly shuffling with a cane in hand.

Any suggestions? I really do not want to re-install the o/s. But the system is rather unpleasant to operate at the moment.

Thanks

Mark

By the way, my machine does not use an Nvidia card.

The machine has never acted this way with Suse back to 9.1.

Mark

You are right.
I also create a thread for it with “became slow…”.
The same thing is happening with me.
Everything is slower than b4.firefox,refresh takes time,minimize and maximize etc.

Tell us more about your PC
It sounds like a graphics issue
You say you have no graphics card, so you must be on-board
You need to explain what you have

Intel® Pentium® 4 3.2GHz (1MB),
800MHz FSB,
2 GB RAM
500GB 7200RPM IDE HDD,
PCI Ultra Small Form Factor (1x2),
Intel Extreme Graphics 2,
24x CD-ROM,
Intel Gigabit Ethernet,

SuSE 11.0-2.6.25.11-0.1

If graphics driver gets messed up, type 3 in the grub boot line to get runlevel 3 - login as root

type
sax2 -r -m 0=vesa

reboot
this should enable a display using vesa

I’ll try your suggestion shortly.

But first, here is the content of my system log. At about 18:00 hours, the system worked well. An hour or so later, after installing updates, the system turned spastic.

Note the last entry.

Interestingly, the opensuse form window in which I am typing, works fast and normally, unlike the parent Firefox window.

Mark

================ begin log ============

Jul 22 19:48:35 SuSE su: (to root) heseltine on /dev/pts/3
Jul 22 19:48:35 SuSE su: (to root) heseltine on /dev/pts/3
Jul 22 19:50:35 SuSE smartd[3228]: Device: /dev/sda, SMART Usage Attribute: 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered changed from 37 to 36
Jul 22 19:55:16 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 3
Jul 22 19:55:16 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: USB disconnect, address 4
Jul 22 20:20:29 SuSE syslog-ng[1693]: STATS: dropped 0
Jul 22 20:37:26 SuSE kernel: martian destination 0.0.0.0 from 192.168.1.1, dev eth0
Jul 22 21:18:33 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
Jul 22 21:18:33 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Jul 22 21:18:33 SuSE kernel: hub 4-2:1.0: USB hub found
Jul 22 21:18:33 SuSE kernel: hub 4-2:1.0: 4 ports detected
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0451, idProduct=2046
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: input: CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2.3/4-2.3:1.0/input/input6
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2.3
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: input: CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2.3/4-2.3:1.1/input/input7
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2.3
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0a81, idProduct=0205
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: Product: PS2 to USB Converter
Jul 22 21:18:34 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: Manufacturer: CHESEN
Jul 22 21:20:29 SuSE syslog-ng[1693]: STATS: dropped 0
Jul 22 21:25:49 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 5
Jul 22 21:25:49 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: USB disconnect, address 6
Jul 22 21:28:25 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
Jul 22 21:28:25 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Jul 22 21:28:25 SuSE kernel: hub 4-2:1.0: USB hub found
Jul 22 21:28:25 SuSE kernel: hub 4-2:1.0: 4 ports detected
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0451, idProduct=2046
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: input: CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2.3/4-2.3:1.0/input/input8
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2.3
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: input: CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2.3/4-2.3:1.1/input/input9
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2.3
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0a81, idProduct=0205
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: Product: PS2 to USB Converter
Jul 22 21:28:26 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: Manufacturer: CHESEN
Jul 22 21:32:17 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 7
Jul 22 21:32:17 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: USB disconnect, address 8
Jul 22 21:37:33 SuSE kernel: martian destination 0.0.0.0 from 192.168.1.1, dev eth0
Jul 22 21:51:14 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 9
Jul 22 21:51:14 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Jul 22 21:51:14 SuSE kernel: hub 4-2:1.0: USB hub found
Jul 22 21:51:14 SuSE kernel: hub 4-2:1.0: 4 ports detected
Jul 22 21:51:14 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0451, idProduct=2046
Jul 22 21:51:14 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
Jul 22 21:51:14 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10
Jul 22 21:51:15 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Jul 22 21:51:15 SuSE kernel: input: CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2.3/4-2.3:1.0/input/input10
Jul 22 21:51:15 SuSE kernel: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2.3
Jul 22 21:51:15 SuSE kernel: input: CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2.3/4-2.3:1.1/input/input11
Jul 22 21:51:15 SuSE kernel: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [CHESEN PS2 to USB Converter] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2.3
Jul 22 21:51:15 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0a81, idProduct=0205
Jul 22 21:51:15 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
Jul 22 21:51:15 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: Product: PS2 to USB Converter
Jul 22 21:51:15 SuSE kernel: usb 4-2.3: Manufacturer: CHESEN
Jul 22 21:51:29 SuSE su: (to root) heseltine on /dev/pts/3
Jul 22 21:51:29 SuSE su: (to root) heseltine on /dev/pts/3
Jul 22 21:53:56 SuSE kernel: Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver
Jul 22 21:53:56 SuSE kernel: ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
Jul 22 21:53:56 SuSE kernel: st: Version 20080221, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256
Jul 22 21:53:56 SuSE kernel: Driver ‘st’ needs updating - please use bus_type methods

============ end log =============

Umm.
Looks like you have some usb connections there!

There was a kernel update, did you do that? You will have noticed because tells you to re-boot.

Sometimes you will need to re-compile drivers to your kernel. Only you know if you have any.
For eg; some people manually compile their video driver rather than using the repo’s - after an update you will need to re-compile.

Okay. I did download a kernel security patch. That is the cause of the problem.

So, I went into Sax2 and dropped the colours to 64k. This speeded up the system somewhat but it remains jerky. And the colours are dreadful.

I have never before (used Suse since 7.1; and since suse 9.1 on this machine) needed to recompile video drivers. I have always accepted default drivers on install.

Unless anyone has any thoughts, I think I will simply re-install the operating system and then not add the kernel security patch. I will give it a think overnight.

Thanks for the kind assistance.

Cheers,

Mark

try vesa as I quoted earlier
change your colour back from 64k

Have you accidentally enabled Compiz or KDE Desktop effects?

Ben,

You identified the problem. I went into configure desktop, Look and Feel, desktop - and found that ‘desktop effects’ had been selected. How I ever turned on desktop effects I will never know. My system was not built for graphics and the graphics chip shares memory with the system. So, not appropriate to have desktop effects on.

I wonder if this is the same problem that mmarif4u is having?

Many thanks.

And thanks, caf4926 for the super assistance too.

Mark

Glad to help!

I also had issues with enabling KDE Desktop Effects on my Radeon 7500 Mobile. Moving windows just slowed to a crawl. They have yet to optimize the KDE window manager to perform at compiz speeds.

I have the same problem, with an nvidia card. nvs 140m. worked great with suse 10.3. Compiz or not same jerky stuff

suse 11 64bit
4GB ram
Intel(R) Core™2 Duo CPU T7300 @ 2.00GHz

Could be you are looking at this issue, the thread is about changes to the xorg drivers affecting Intel chipsets:
OpenSuSE 11 and Xorg update - openSUSE Forums

Look at comment 17 and 23, could be reverting to the xorg driver solves issues for NVidia too? Again, the parameters in the post are for Intel video cards… don’t know how they will affect other cards.

Cheers,
Wj