Suggestion: Install openSUSE including non-free drivers and codecs

In Chakra Linux, it gives you the option during the start-up of the LiveCD to choose between using and installing the free or non-free (proprietary) graphics card drivers.
There are several reasons why i think it would be nice to be able to install openSUSE with the option of “install including non-free drivers” too:
In Linux Land we prefer stuff that comes with the source code (we call that “free as in freedom”), but your computer may have some hardware for which free as in freedom drivers aren’t available, or if they are they’re not very good; for example Nvidia provides excellent support in the form of drivers for Linux, and the drivers are free as in beer (that means they don’t cost any money!). But they’re not free as in freedom. There are free community drivers available, but they don’t work as well as the proprietary Nvidia drivers. There’s other hardware (a lot of wireless cards come to mind) that won’t work at all without proprietary drivers.
Choosing the non-free option means that any non-free drivers will be included.

http://linuxreview.ir/wp-content/uploads/nonfree-d.jpg

Although openSUSE users can install them after installing the distro, but sometimes they faced with some problems (such as me in installing nvidia graphic driver) in current method.

I Think it is very useful for openSUSE users to be able to install their lovely distro with the option of “install with non-free drivers and codecs”.

What do you think?

As allways, that is not a technical problem, but a juridical one. Novell will never do this.

On 2012-05-27 15:26, ilAli wrote:

> I Think it is very useful for openSUSE users to be able to install
> their lovely distro with the option of “install with non-free drivers
> and codecs”.

Impossible. No matter how useful it would be, it is impossible, don’t ask
for it, even less here: we are users.

> What do you think?

Has been argued to the infinite. Search the mail archives. I’m not going to
explain the matter again, read it instead. >:-)


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On Sun, 27 May 2012 13:26:03 +0000, ilAli wrote:

> In Chakra Linux, it gives you the option during the start-up of the
> LiveCD to choose between using and installing the free or non-free
> (proprietary) graphics card drivers.

Here’s why openSUSE doesn’t and won’t:

http://en.opensuse.org/Restricted_formats

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

There is an option though: use Welcome – SUSE Studio to create your own install media, incl. Packman, and with codecs installed by default.

On 2012-05-27 22:46, Knurpht wrote:
>
> There is an option though: use ‘Welcome – SUSE Studio’
> (http://susestudio.com) to create your own install media, incl. Packman,
> and with codecs installed by default.

And if you distribute it, you are responsible for it, and thus you can be
sued :wink:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

and why chakra does not sue?

Because Chakra and possibly also you do not have money. But Novell has. When somebody sues you and wants many M$ from you, you will laugh and they know they will never get it.

On Mon, 28 May 2012 05:56:02 +0000, ilAli wrote:

> robin_listas;2465610 Wrote:
>>
>>
>> And if you distribute it, you are responsible for it, and thus you can
>> be sued :wink:
>>
> and why chakra does not sue?

They choose to take the risk. They could well get sued. SUSE chose not
to take the risk.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

I am informed that I should not mention Novell here, because it has nothing to do with it. But the same is true for whoever distributes openSUSE, as Carlos said: they chose not to take the risk.