speedport 200 connection problems

hello, back at it again…:stuck_out_tongue:

have a problem with my new (POS) speedport 200 dsl modem from t-online (again, POS!). the problem is that i cannot find it with my suse11.0 version. admittedly, i know very little, but i was able to find my d-link 604 only after 2 days work. this modem will not be found. it claims i am connected and what-not, but i cannot get into the internet.

now, the things i have tried:

  • using Yast to find the DSL device…no go, or at least i don’t think so^^
  • reconfiguring the network card to get the ip from the modem…didn’t work
  • restarting (againandagainandagain…)
  • dumping all manually given information with regards to the network and letting the system find the info itself…no go
  • re-installing the system with the modem attached…still no go.

i am at a loss as to what i am doing wrong here. there is no documentation for this modem and (as i found out at the ubuntu pages), there is no way to access the modem from an interactive webpage.
what do i do to get my system to recognize the modem or to run through it? how can i set up the ip (networkmanager) for a new connection when there is no ip that i can recognize? isn’t it required that the network card and modem have the same root ip?

any and all help would be greatly appreciated!

purplefool

The first thing to do would be to see the output of the lspci (or lsusb, depending on the type of modem) command and see how SuSE names the device; then google around to see if the device is supported in liGNUx at all (and how).

yikes! what in the world is that? the device is hooked up to the network card, so ‘pci’ and ‘usb’ would be wrong…or am i missing something? is ‘ls’ this ‘list’ command? sorry, don’t know how i should do that, but will try it in the konsole and see what happens…
thx for the fast reply!

purplefool

My bad. Of course it’s connected via eth. Well, in that case, you should just set up a new dsl0 connection in YaST/Network Devices/DSL/Add. To make it finally work, though, you will have to install kinternet (maybe it’s already installed, check in YaST/Software/Install & Remove Software/Search kinternet).
After you create the dsl0 connection in YaST (with your ISP password and all), run kinternet from konsole, kinternet should then list your connection/provider and enable you to connect.
Good luck!

so, i am using the visual interface of YaST and have already ‘installed’ the modem, though it doesn’t work like one. kinternet is installed and i will work with it through the konsole.
however, i have no internet where i am until i get this finished…should i download anything now just to be on the safe side?
i have been surfing around to find out about a speedport 200 and have found that those who use it are either able to buy a new one or not linux users. so, i am asking specifically: does anyone have a speedport 200 and know what to do with it? would only like to hear that it works with linux…

thx a bunch for the help!
purplefool

so, am back from the office and am still really frustrated by this speedport 200. but luckily a man who shares office space with me had an extra speedport w500v and he got that running with his windows/mac laptop. then we hooked it up to my linux and i was able to at least communicate with it. still no internet, but i can see the light at the end of the long long tunnel.:wink:

still, i would like to know about this speedport 200. does it work? is there any way to ‘communicate’ with it? does it work with linux? just some questions…

i tried kinternet (it only took 30 minutes to even find it…i’m getting fasterrotfl!), but could not really do much with it with the speedport 200 because i could not find the modem. but kinternet kept telling me that i needed to start ‘smpppd’. when i tried to find that (only 10mins) i found that this was just a way to direct kinternet to things it should download out of the internet…not much help when i can’t get there.
so i went back to the internetmanager and found…well…no speedport 200.

i will let you know what happens the next time i am at the office, but if you have any suggestions (no matter how ‘beginner’ they are, they will probably help me!!), please let me know!

thx
purplefool

As I said, if your modem is not USB, the things really should work. Seen from your NIC’s point of view an ethernet modem is just an ethernet connection. No special drivers required. You only have to configure your ethernet card correctly in YaST, and then configure a dsl connection (in YaST again) to use that ethernet card. The only thing I can think of at this point is you may be using a crossover ethernet cable (used for connecting two computers directly, but useless for connecting a computer to a modem); well, Windows is known to sometimes be able to overcome that and establish a connection nevertheless; liGNUx, following standards more strictly, can’t. Now, if it’s not the cable, all I can do is refer you to some good step-by step instructions and “success stories”: if even these don’t work, you’ll need to find a linux conoisseur to lay hands on your computer and set it up for you.:slight_smile:
Try following these instructions:
[Ilugc] bsnl dataone connection in SuSE](http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2007-May/034649.html)
Also confirmed by these two HOWTOs, separately for the ethernet card and for the dsl connection (I assume you speak german):
Netzwerkkarte - LinuxClub
DSL - LinuxClub
As you see, you have to gather some basic information before attempting these steps (your dial-in number, any userids/passwords, what type of connection you have - PPPoE is the most common, but not the only type, do you have DHCP - again, most probably you do, but not necessarily - you should check all these things with your ISP or, far more easily, simply by gathering and writing down all the necessary data from a working machine connected to your ISP).
After you gather this information, you first edit your ethernet card data in YaST accordingly (if required) and then delete any existings dsl setups in YaST and create a new dsl connection, filling in all the right data. Then, start kinternet from a terminal (you may be required to issue su first). If it whines about dependencies, you might need to get a temporary internet connection somewhere and download them. About smpppd: it migh already be installed, but must be run as root (su) from the konsole. I know, it seems like a lot of work, but … here are some success stories:
Re: [opensuse] ADSL Modem Manual
LINUX • openSUSE - Hilfe bei OpenSuse 10.3 (DSL-Modem)
And, as a last resort, if nothing else works:
Kinternet not working in OpenSUSE 11.0 - LinuxQuestions.org
Good luck and may patience be with you.

P.S. Just out of curiosity: in your first post you state that your modem “claims i am connected and what-not” – in what sense does it claim that, exactly? Can you ping any internet site? Can you at least ping your ISP?

sorry, that was written poorly. i meant that my router claims that i was connected. this is to say that i could get through the router, but was being stopped at the modem.

ok first off, thx for your patience and perseverance! the help that you just posted is fantastic and much more focused that what i found in all of my digging. i think that i will be having a very good success story soon. last night i had an epiphany that should work well, coupled with your links.

next post should be from the office!

so, i am in the office, but this time i took the laptop with me…it works but linux doesn’t…strange.

anyway, have some information that i need fast…found someone who said that i should modify the /etc/smpppd.conf file where, in the second line, ‘open-int-socket = no’ is. this should be changed to ‘yes’. however, i cannot find the way to edit this. the line is really there as no and i can see that this could cause the problem, but how do i edit this document? whatever i try to open it up with is either far out (edit command in konsole) or is not allowed to open it.

thx for a really quick reply!!

purplefool

From a console type su to get root.
Then cd /etc and then issue kwrite or kate (they are both GUI editors).

ok, this is bad…niether of them work! when i type ‘kwrite’ in the curser just goes to the next line and nothing happens. ‘kate’ just brings up the ‘there is no command for kate’ dialog.

thx for the fast reply though! what do you think i should do? i was in root and even in the right place. do i type in ‘kwrite smpppd.conf’ or something else with it?

thx

Run those commands from a console window inside KDE, not from one of the seven liGNUx consoles. Try running Kate and Kwrite with capital and with lowercase; also, try the command kate smpppd.conf. You’re not using Gnome perchance? I’m giving you commands for KDE.

so, am in root in /etc and type in kate(Kate/KATE) and get nothing…not even a reaction outside of that the command is not recognized. for some reason, kwrite doesn’t do anything either outside of my having to ctrl c the process because nothing happens. sorry this is taking so much time, but i think this might be the problem!

purplefool

Hmmm … that’s extremely odd. Maybe your installation is messed up? Kate and Kwrite should definitely be there. The other way to do this would be to exit your user account (switch user) and enter the root account (type “root” as user name and enter the related password). Then try choosing any GUI editor from your K menu, there should be at least one. Then open the file from within that editor and edit it, although it would be wise to save a backup copy first. Just in case.

the reason for this,is, root needs to start it’s own x server to display kate. It cannot do this as you are using the x server. To get this to work,from a console,type

su kate /etc/files_name/

& press enter. you will be asked for root’s password

Andy

To get this to work,from a console,type

su kate /etc/files_name/

& press enter. you will be asked for root’s password

Andy[/QUOTE]

when i type this in, i get ‘user kate does not exist’
will try a couple of alternatives, but more info would be great!

On Thu November 6 2008 02:16 pm, purplefool wrote:

>
> To get this to work,from a console,type
> Code:
> --------------------
> su kate /etc/files_name/
> --------------------
> & press enter. you will be asked for root’s password
>
> Andy
>
> when i type this in, i get ‘user kate does not exist’
> will try a couple of alternatives, but more info would be great!
>
>
purplefool;

As far as I can tell you want to edit a file in KDE as root. If this is
correct here is an easy way.

Menu->File Manager Super User Mode.
(enter root’s password)
Navigate to the file you want, right click, choose “Open With” and then choose
your editor.

P. V.
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum.

so, that with the superuser worked well and i got the file changed. now i am restarting and will do a short look. will post if it works, otherwise i am going home to the kids! my butt is sore from sitting and my eyes look like devils on speed. need some sleep and need my computer. what a combination.
to all of you who helped me today with such fast responses THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!

purplefool

On Thu November 6 2008 02:46 pm, purplefool wrote:

>
> so, that with the superuser worked well and i got the file changed. now
> i am restarting and will do a short look. will post if it works,
> otherwise i am going home to the kids! my butt is sore from sitting and
> my eyes look like devils on speed. need some sleep and need my
> computer. what a combination.
> to all of you who helped me today with such fast responses THANK YOU
> VERY MUCH!!!
>
> purplefool
>
>
purplefool;

Glad to see it works and that we could help. I think deltaflyer meant “kdesu
kate”. The command “su” means “set user ID” without any parameter (i.e, su)
it tries to set the root user id. But “su kate” will try to set the user id
for a user named kate. Thus “su jsmith” will connect as user “jsmith”. For
details run “man su” in a terminal.

P. V.
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum.

i’m going to have to leave soon, so i probably won’t get the answer before tonight, but i have a strange question: is there something in suse that will lock down the computer from the internet and is really easy to open? i mean, i have been working for weeks now trying to get the computer into the internet. i can reach the modem and configure that, but i cannot get a webpage to materialize for the life of me. i don’t know what is wrong. all the things that i know of are done. i have open ports, the firewall is disabled, i have all the info to get out of the computer (to the modem) but not to pull things into it.

this is very frustrating because i KNOW that linux the better choice is by far, but i feel like my mother-in-law…she just started using them ‘new fangled machines thar…’ a few months ago and can click where we tell her to and can open an email and even reply…but when the computer blinks funny she just turns it off and says ‘when you gonna make that thar mechine work right?’

computers and programs are not that hard, but i can’t get it right. i have looked at ‘step-by-steps’ and troubleshooting and everything else. i live in germany where i know next to nobody and the only one who knows linux is on sabatical.

near as i can tell, there must be something blocking the data flow INTO the computer. it comes to the modem and gets sent to the computer and the computer sends it into the nether worlds somewhere. what could cause this? i have even re-installed and get the same thing (though because of that i could reach the modem!). just tossing out ideas and brainstorming would be nice here. what would YOU do if you were in this position? i can’t do everything, but many things are ‘learnable’.

sitting back and waving his hands a bit so, discuss…