I have only KDE3 installed on my 24/7 box. TDE is on about half of my other Leaps, half my TWs, half my Mageias, half my Fedoras, and all my Debians and *buntus. I have determined on 15.4 on 24/7 that KDE3 does not require any of *arts*, and only requires libjack0 of *jack*, for its system sounds and for aplay to work without any cmdline switches, if pulseaudio is installed. I reported this in more detail in my KDE3 mailing list thread.
It’s only that you showed that ‘arts’ and related packages in your prior post. A bit hard following all that you post when trying to provide guidance. Anyway, when ‘jack’ works for you, perhaps ‘pipewire-libjack-0_3’ is worth considering.
10 days ago I replaced my 15.3 with a fresh 15.5, keeping 15.4 as-is as fallback. End result WRT sound was aplay, system sounds, and youtube on Chromium & Palemoon all still worked, and FF ESR102 and SM still didn’t. Night before last, I began migrating my main PC from its 9 year old Haswell motherboard with i3-4150T (3.0GHz 2c/4t) to a 6 year old Kaby Lake motherboard with i3-7100T (3.4GHz 4c/4t). Included was migration from SATA SSD to NVME SSD, for all 5 installed OS versions. Now that that seems to be debugged to the point nothing has been lost, I find the audio situation remains exactly the same. I had hoped for better.
Somewhat abbreviated summary of current state:
> inxi -Aaz --vs
inxi 3.3.28-00 (2023-07-10)
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 200 Series PCH HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:a2f0
class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k5.14.21-150500.55.7-default status: kernel-api
tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: aRts v: 1.5.10 status: off with: artswrapper status: off
tools: artsdsp
Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.12 status: off tools: jack_control
Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.64 status: active with: wireplumber
status: active tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
> pw-cli list-objects Device
id 38, type PipeWire:Interface:Device/3
object.serial = "38"
factory.id = "14"
client.id = "32"
device.api = "alsa"
device.description = "Built-in Audio"
device.name = "alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1f.3"
device.nick = "HDA Intel PCH"
media.class = "Audio/Device"
> wpctl status
PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [0.3.64, moz@00srv, cookie:3066560072]
ââ Clients:
31. WirePlumber [0.3.64, moz@00srv, pid:3323]
32. WirePlumber [export] [0.3.64, moz@00srv, pid:3323]
47. wpctl [0.3.64, moz@00srv, pid:11800]
Audio
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â 38. Built-in Audio [alsa]
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ââ Sinks:
â * 39. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 0.69]
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ââ Sink endpoints:
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ââ Sources:
â 40. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 1.00]
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ââ Source endpoints:
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ââ Streams:
Video
ââ Devices:
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Settings
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Maybe I should mark this thread somehow, obsolete? Dead? It may be a while before I recover from the many hours spent switching motherboards and drives between two PC cases, and moving two multiboot PCs between SATA and NVME boot disks, one in each direction, which I may highlight elsewhere when up to it mentally, probably after making both Brother printers work.
I note that you have JACK running with PipeWire (inxi output). I have no experience with using the former…can they even co-exist? The pipewire-libjack-0_3 package can be installed as a compatibility layer if needed.
Other than that I’m not sure why you can’t make it work in your environment. Do you have Gnome or KDE Plasma to test with?
erlangen doesn’t use KDE3. However this is irrelevant, in my opinion of course. What really matters is the related systemd units I showed in my post. systemd is your friend. You may post the output of the above commands on your machine.
1-autodetect, 2-jack, 3-none), 4-open sound and 5-threaded open sound appear in KDE3 KControl sound system settings. Neither Apluse, nor Pipewire, nor Pulseaudio, nor Wireplumber do. I’ve only ever (to my recollection) had sound working correctly in KDE3 selecting either jack or auto. I’ve experimented with removing jack and/or arts packages before without ever getting satisfactory results. Could be it’s time to try again though now with fresh installation and change of hardware…working printer needed first.
I would ignore testing with KControl.
Have you checked the respective application settings? For example with VLC, how is the audio device configured?
We’ve been through that already? KDE3 requires aRts. However, I’m not sure why you can’t get all applications working as desired.
Let’s close this increasingly convoluted thread out, and when you’re ready to tackle it with ONE “reference” system it can be revisited. Otherwise it will go around in circles, and people will suggest stuff that has already been covered.